Freedom of speech website NZ version?

[Spyke]

Freedom of speech website NZ version???
Hey guys, since we can't do much for america, we could start with our country that is far away at the bottom of the world.

Freedom of speech NZ

Lets make a website that all enrolled nzers can use to vote on political decisions big and small. A polling site with a difference in that basically all of nz could have their say on the matters that effect us!
Login in with your electoral number and password to a protected site where you can have your say on time on each bill,law, everything that comes up in the running of nz?

A forum to raise ideas that can be heard by the people that count?
Moderators to stop bad grammer lol.


I'm no website designer but i think this could change the way the world works, we the people of nz could have our say from the comfort of our key boards. now is the time of the key board warrior to stand up and be counted on!!!

I love NZ and don't want us to be run by the big companies but by all of us, lets make a change. Our generation needs all the more experienced to help, as you guys know the history behind all this, have had true protests and all the good living so we can learn a thing or two!

Peace, may as well say legalise pot to take the bottom of the drug market out aswell

Any ideas of bringing New Zealand forward to a place we can all enjoy better are welcomed.

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....serious que....do you have the time to run such a site...?...

[nathanwhite]

So the end idea is that the entire population votes on laws instead of the politicians?
Could work, have to get decent servers to handle the load of 4 million users.

Only problem is sorting all the comments and statements that people leave. Voting is easy enough, and the general idea could be felt, but I get the feeling that it would be like trying to police 4chan.

[imdying]

Lets make a website that all enrolled nzers can use to vote on political decisions big and small. A polling site with a difference in that basically all of nz could have their say on the matters that effect us!
Login in with your electoral number and password to a protected site where you can have your say on time on each bill,law, everything that comes up in the running of nz?

Sure. You build it. I'll hack it. Every time a coconut. For fun. In my sleep. Because I can.

Top idea, but never going to fly

As an alternative, how about an mini electoral office (booth in malls etc, etc) that has half a dozen PCs where you can effectively do the same thing (but not exposed on the internet). You could go there for all your electoral services (change of address, change of roll, voting, referendums, etc). Of course, you could hack that too given enough thought....

[Scuba_Steve]

Sure. You build it. I'll hack it. Every time a coconut. For fun. In my sleep. Because I can.

Top idea, but never going to fly

the only reason it wouldn't fly is because the dictators would lose all their power & backhanders, as for hacking it I don't think it'd be as easy as one might think

[imdying]

as for hacking it I don't think it'd be as easy as one might think

They would have to have some pretty magical pixies protecting it then

Hackers from around the world would fucking plunder that beyatch for all it was worth

[nathanwhite]

Of course. the govt wouldn't want to lose their power, so why would they bring in a system that does exactly that? For it to be official, the Govt would have to bring it in.

You could build and launch the website yourself, (or get it done) but it would never take off without a)a massive advertising campaign. b)some sort of official stamp on the paperwork. People would just think that someone was trying to get their details.

[Spyke]

I have the time to run the site (probably not qualified to though), but was thinking more along the lines of the government should be running such a task as they effectively work for us and this is an idea for them to get a lot more votes on different subjects.

Fibre optics have been layed down the country, i'm sure a server that can handle really high flow wouldn't be to hard. could make the current govt websites more user frindly.


How do banks get around hacking online accounts?
why would you hack something that gives you the right to vote on polls that can help the future of the country? ok thats naive, is there a way around this?

[Scuba_Steve]

They would have to have some pretty magical pixies protecting it then

Hackers from around the world would fucking plunder that beyatch for all it was worth

Why would people from other countries be interested in hacking it???
I'm not saying it'd be any harder than the militaries system to hack, but if the system detected 2 or more votes from the same person it would red flag it etc
at best I could only see hacks as a delay to the system so I wouldn't really get why people would bother? there wouldn't be any useful info there no credit card details or valuable info

Of course. the govt wouldn't want to lose their power, so why would they bring in a system that does exactly that? For it to be official, the Govt would have to bring it in.

You could build and launch the website yourself, (or get it done) but it would never take off without a)a massive advertising campaign. b)some sort of official stamp on the paperwork. People would just think that someone was trying to get their details.

If it helps I was thinking of starting a political party based round this idea tho, if I ever get my A into G as they say I will do just that too

[Spyke]

Of course. the govt wouldn't want to lose their power.

This is where a idea like this can gain traction, if they just turn down a idea to give everyone an easy way to vote this could be seen as stopping the rights of nzers as its your right to be heard and vote on matters that concern us?

they work for us and thats why they are there, this would make their job easier would it not?

[imdying]

Why would people from other countries be interested in hacking it???

Heh, because it's there. An extension of an electoral system to mess with, how could you resist?

[Spyke]

If it helps I was thinking of starting a political party based round this idea tho, if I ever get my A into G as they say I will do just that too

i hope you really do, would love to see a party i could vote for and possibly help

[davereid]

Democracy is just mob rule.

Lowest common denominator gets to decide ?

Yeah right.

If you want a voice get involved in the select committee process, make submissions etc.

Otherwise, the idiots will just vote for the pretty option.

[Big Dave]

A lot of folks don't use the internet.

[pzkpfw]

... Otherwise, the idiots will just vote for the pretty option.

Totally.

e.g. How many people would "vote" for a tax increase?

What if it was to pay for a good cause, like "X". Would only people who care about "X" vote for the tax increase?

In general, people are mostly motivated by self-interest. (No different to most politicians.) And geez, people are stupid.

So I actually think the current system where we get to vote for the party we like, then that party just gets on with (more or less) doing its job for a few years, works better than an "everybody gets to vote on everything" system would.