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    pretty interested in the topic...

    let me understand...
    here in italy, they use stuff like this http://www.informaniaci.it/wp-conten.../autovelox.jpg

    which afak don't use any laser or radio wave.
    they are simply two photodetectors parallel to the road and a camera connected.
    if you pass in front of the detectors too fast, the camera will shoot.

    is there any way to detect those machines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urano View Post
    pretty interested in the topic...

    let me understand...
    here in italy, they use stuff like this http://www.informaniaci.it/wp-conten.../autovelox.jpg

    which afak don't use any laser or radio wave.
    they are simply two photodetectors parallel to the road and a camera connected.
    if you pass in front of the detectors too fast, the camera will shoot.

    is there any way to detect those machines?
    You need to brake heavily before the first strip to send a shockwave along the road triggering the camera before you make an appearance.
    i.e. you eyes are your only warning looking for those camera's and cuts in the road where sensors lay.
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    To the OP. AFAIK, NZ police radars do not use POP so, currently, for us that feature is redundant.

    Ka band police cars are really easy to detect from miles away when they're on. If you get hit with Instant On, then you might be in trouble. Same with laser.

    The new low powered K band speed camera vans are very difficult to detect even with top bits of kit like the Bel STi, the V1, Escort 9500.

    As others have said, use your eyes first and foremost and, if you get one, use the RD as a supplementary system. Oh, and save ridiculous speeds for the track

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    Typical... I posted this question two weeks ago, got 16 blah blah blah responses and FINALLY somebody actually addressed my question. Thanks Steve_T, I bought a V1 anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    To the OP. AFAIK, NZ police radars do not use POP so, currently, for us that feature is redundant.

    Ka band police cars are really easy to detect from miles away when they're on. If you get hit with Instant On, then you might be in trouble. Same with laser.

    The new low powered K band speed camera vans are very difficult to detect even with top bits of kit like the Bel STi, the V1, Escort 9500.

    As others have said, use your eyes first and foremost and, if you get one, use the RD as a supplementary system. Oh, and save ridiculous speeds for the track
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    And I would hate the feeling the first time I got nailed by instant-on.
    I suspect I've been "nailed" by instant on on four or five occasions now. On none of those occasions was I exceeding 100kph.

    It seems the thought process of the local operators goes something along the lines, "Doh - bike - zap!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    It seems the thought process of the local operators goes something along the lines, "Doh - bike - zap!"
    Yep. Came across that this morning. Copper on side of road at Whatawhata - inside the 80km zone. Radar off. Until he saw me coming at which point radar on. But I was being good so no worries eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    When he is following, you are relying on a reflected signal, not a direct beam, so it is unlikely that you would pick him up if he is behind you under those conditions.

    My Bell STi has picked up cops at 5 km away on flat straight roads, and up to 2 km around bends when he is coming towards me. If he's behind then he has to be fairly close. My Escort 9500i picked up a copas I crested the hill just north of Shingle Creek Tavern, and I didn't actually meet him for another 4 km. That isn't just hilly, its along the side of a mountain with lots of curves, gorges and bends.

    But if he's behind, then hopefully I've already seen him rather than rely on a detector.
    Except for the Valentine 1 which has a rear facing antenna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    Except for the Valentine 1 which has a rear facing antenna
    And depending on how you mount the V1, your own body directly between the radar and the Valentine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    Except for the Valentine 1 which has a rear facing antenna
    so does the Bell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4skins View Post
    Typical... I posted this question two weeks ago, got 16 blah blah blah responses and FINALLY somebody actually addressed my question. Thanks Steve_T, I bought a V1 anyway.
    so you asked a question on KB, expected free advice straight away, then buy something without that advice anyway, then complain? how long have you been here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
    so you asked a question on KB, expected free advice straight away, then buy something without that advice anyway, then complain? how long have you been here?
    Time to find some more of his threads to assist his education
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    Except for the Valentine 1 which has a rear facing antenna
    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    And depending on how you mount the V1, your own body directly between the radar and the Valentine.
    No problem if you mount it on top of your helmet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    And depending on how you mount the V1, your own body directly between the radar and the Valentine.
    The Escort has a rearward facing antenna. It seems to work even through my rotund torso.
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    I believe the V1 is the only detector that actually tells you the direction of the threat (front or rear) all the others simply alert you to the fact there is a threat with no detail as to where it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNanna View Post
    I believe the V1 is the only detector that actually tells you the direction of the threat (front or rear) all the others simply alert you to the fact there is a threat with no detail as to where it is
    V1 have a patent on the indicator I believe... ergo no-one else can use it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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