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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    I think that was the point of the editorial, that it happens too often if you have some claim to fame and that justice is peaking beneath her blind fold. It isn't discussing the guilt or rights and wrongs of the particular case but the rights and wrong of the judges sentencing decisions.
    Absolutely...I fully agree.

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    He walked free because there was no gain in sentencing him.

    IANAL, but a quick squizz at wikipedia will present you with the following reasons for sentencing.

    Retribution ->Punishment imposed only on ground that an offense has been committed
    Deterrence ->
    To the individual - the individual is deterred through fear of further punishment.
    To the general public - Potential offenders warned as to likely punishment
    Rehabilitation -> To reform the offender's behavior
    Incapacitation - Protection of the Public -> Offender is made incapable of committing further crime to protect society at large from crime
    Reparation -> Repayment to victim(s) or to community
    Denunciation -> Society expressing its disapproval reinforcing moral boundaries


    We don't like Retribution and Denunciation sentences, those are "I just don't like you" types of sentences, and in this particular case makes circumstances worse for the victim. No point giving a deterrant sentence (what's the liklihood of reoffense?). No point in incapacitation sentence (who will it protect?). And a reparation sentence doesn't make sense either. And rehabilitation offense, well assuming that he gives up alcohol what more can you ask?

    => No sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    more often than is exceptable, certain people in society get away with certain things you or I might not, and shouldn't.
    I can attest that average people with an unfunny or 'public' careers don't get away with it.

    Unless someone fucks up the investigation or the evidence is not 'trial proof and the offender doesn't admit guilt'...oh wait this guy did admit guilt...oh yes that's right FOR SHAME Judge Whatsername

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    I can attest that average people with an unfunny or 'public' careers don't get away with it.

    Unless someone fucks up the investigation or the evidence is not 'trial proof and the offender doesn't admit guilt'...oh wait this guy did admit guilt...oh yes that's right FOR SHAME Judge Whatsername
    I think you are missing part of this, ...To recieve a discharge, you have to accept the Police summation of facts (unconditionally), AS WELL AS plead guilty.

    That is the only reason he plead guilty, I am sure.

    IF we was not offered considerration for discharge, the next stage would have been a disputed facts hearing, he would have plead not guilty, and put everyone through shit for the rest of there lives.

    I think it has little to do with his status.......if it was a billionare, I would be more inclined to follow your train of thought though.....like Mark Ellis and the E story...... he ([I] am sure) is more wealthy than this comedian, and did get a conviction entered, as well as no name supression.

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    damm your not wrong there dude
    dam pervert something wrong with that dude in the head
    but wahats wrong with the judge gezz

    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...748953&ref=rss

    Plead guilty to sexually abusing his daughter, yet fucking walks free? The judge said the effects of a conviction outweighs the seriousness of the charge? This is a fucking embarrassment. I hope the 'un-named' (who most know who it is) gets what is coming his way.

    [edit] Unless of course his partner has the body of a four year old girl and wears nappies..........

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    Yeah I'll be very interested to hear from all the people that said they know him, the 'true facts' of the case if they do now change things.

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    To feckin right that decision should be reviewed

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