40 k over & you walk!

**curious george** · 17th December 2003, 22:40

I used to work at an importes yard cleaning truck cabs.
The japs have lights on the roof indicating speed-out they go.
Seat belts, out too.
Catalytic converters-begone!
Crazy.

/rant before it starts, hops off hobbly horse and into bed

**wkid_one** · 18th December 2003, 06:00

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

in a 50kmhr area, possibly, although how about a clear construction zone with no workers who've taken off for a week and left their signs out? easy to do if coming down from over a 100.

as for 140 on the open road, in many places, thats well excessive. But in other places, I find it quite easy to tick along at 140+ with good visibility of any approaching hazards. Specially if you have a sorted bike/tyres and know the road.

whats the 'see ya sunshine' limit in other countries?

Esp. some of the long straights in the middle of the country - take National Park - easy to whip along there at 160+ if you are clicked in 6th and not watching your speedo

**jrandom** · 18th December 2003, 08:48

Now that every motorway segment within 5 kays or so of downtown Auckland is an 80 zone, it'll be '120 in an 80' that's the real killer. I regularly bowl up to the harbour bridge doing an indicated 125. Eeeek. There goes my license...

**gpercivl** · 18th December 2003, 10:40

I'd echo... the 'go thee to a race track' advice above...it cured a lot of my 'need for speed' tendancies on the road

**MikeL** · 18th December 2003, 11:18

Originally Posted by gpercivl

I'd echo... the 'go thee to a race track' advice above...it cured a lot of my 'need for speed' tendancies on the road

Yeah but at $80 a go it's a bit expensive. For those of us needing a regular fix it might be cheaper to pay the fines...
... if it weren't for the demerit points and the 28 day licence suspension.

**Lou Girardin** · 18th December 2003, 11:21

If 40km/h over is serious enough for the cops to put you off the road, without trial. Why isn't it serious enough to warrant a dangerous driving charge and arrest?
Nearly all bikes and many cars will quickly exceed 140 from 100km/h in a normal overtaking manouvre.
And when did we have the right to a trial before punishment removed?
Lou

**James Deuce** · 18th December 2003, 12:17

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

If 40km/h over is serious enough for the cops to put you off the road, without trial. Why isn't it serious enough to warrant a dangerous driving charge and arrest?
Nearly all bikes and many cars will quickly exceed 140 from 100km/h in a normal overtaking manouvre.
And when did we have the right to a trial before punishment removed?
Lou

When WE voted Labour into a position of power, and when WE let National implement Random Breath testing without much of a fight.

**Lou Girardin** · 19th December 2003, 09:54

Without starting a political argument, National brought both laws in. But what's the diff they're all the same.
Lou

**James Deuce** · 19th December 2003, 11:40

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Without starting a political argument, National brought both laws in. But what's the diff they're all the same.
Lou

Missed my point dude, but I agree with your point too.

**gpercivl** · 19th December 2003, 13:13

Originally Posted by MikeL

Yeah but at $80 a go it's a bit expensive. For those of us needing a regular fix it might be cheaper to pay the fines...
... if it weren't for the demerit points and the 28 day licence suspension.

Must admit you have a good point...I sold my old FZR750 road bike a few months ago and am missing it a bit :disapint:

**SPman** · 19th December 2003, 17:30

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

If 40km/h over is serious enough for the cops to put you off the road, without trial. Why isn't it serious enough to warrant a dangerous driving charge and arrest?

And when did we have the right to a trial before punishment removed?
Lou

These are very good points.

If you are charged with dangerous driving, are you allowed to drive off down the road, after you get your ticket?

And how legal, moral and ethical is it for one individual (traffic cop), with no other verification than their own prejudices and personality allow, to act as judge, jury and executioner, on his (or hers) interpretation/judgement of speed, when all other "transgressions" can be contested in a court of law, before punishment!?

Seems pretty suss to me!

**curious george** · 19th December 2003, 18:05

What is needed is a test case.
Any volunteers?
I would, but my bike ahhhhhhh is broken

**Slim** · 27th July 2004, 13:05

I was thinking about this the other day (140kph over & lose your licence) and a couple of times in the last few months I've tried to find the paperwork on an official site to back this up, with no joy.

Just found this and this (check the speeding section) and this on the LTSA site (NB the first was issued March 2004, but the 2nd two are older).

Is it 150 or 140 that we have to be worried????

**MikeL** · 27th July 2004, 13:12

Originally Posted by Slim

I was thinking about this the other day (140kph over & lose your licence) and a couple of times in the last few months I've tried to find the paperwork on an official site to back this up, with no joy.

Just found this and this (check the speeding section) and this on the LTSA site (NB the first was issued March 2004, but the 2nd two are older).

Is it 150 or 140 that we have to be worried????

I think the change (from 50 to 40) took effect on 1st April
(we're all fools...)