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    Quote Originally Posted by BOGAR View Post
    Why is it after 10 years I only have to go in to the AA, pay some money, have a photo taken and that's it? The road code has changed in that time so it should be at the least a re-sit on the test to make sure you still now the rules and the current ones at that. Otherwise it just looks like a money generating system.
    fuck don't get me started on that utter extortion of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOGAR View Post
    Why is it after 10 years I only have to go in to the AA, pay some money, have a photo taken and that's it? The road code has changed in that time so it should be at the least a re-sit on the test to make sure you still now the rules and the current ones at that. Otherwise it just looks like a money generating system.
    Because... They decided your license should carry a shot of your ugly mug (presumably to stop the instances of misuse of licesnses etc etc). Now, like the rest of us, yours Im sure gets uglier and uglier as the years roll by and the ability to recognise you now from a photo ten years ago is probably quite low, so....

    ...Nah, Im with you on this one actually. Its a money grabbing scheme. I know when they did my class six on my existing license they took three photos a few months apart and charged accordingly which seems a bit shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylegs View Post
    How is it bullshit. I was very careful to word it so dick-heads like you couldnt come back with a predictable answer like yours. Re-read it.... You have choices!!!

    FWIW... Those of us from civilisation are unaware of what backwater shit hole you refer to when you say 'Parm'. Perhaps put a little bit of effort in eh?

    FWIW (Some more) I assume you mean Palmerston North, in which case I presume the are some 70-80k roads on the fringes of the city before you hit the 100k zones?
    typical Jaffa. Head so far up your own arse you think the rest of NZ has arces of super city to play in. So you can travel for a whole day with out exceeding a 70 k zoen, bully for you. Any civilised person, that includes most Aucklanders btw know a bit more about the country they live in and are more aware of the issues of their fellow citizens. Was Plimmerton too hard for a poor little jaffa to google? The 70 k learners limit was BS when it was introduced and is still BS now. The pollies even realised having cars towing trailers at 20k below the limit is crap so too is forcing a motorcyclist to ride at 30 k below the limit especial when their width is so small as to encourage the following driver to look past them and even force their way past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOGAR View Post
    Why is it after 10 years I only have to go in to the AA, pay some money, have a photo taken and that's it? The road code has changed in that time so it should be at the least a re-sit on the test to make sure you still now the rules and the current ones at that. Otherwise it just looks like a money generating system.

    And seeing as the tests are now done on computers, there would be little to no cost in implementing such a system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parlane View Post
    And seeing as the tests are now done on computers, there would be little to no cost in implementing such a system.
    totally agree but the pollies wont see it that way and that is the bit that worries me. They will likely see it as a goods idea because they will spin doctor factious cost into it so they can charge more. IMO what you pay for a new photo and a simple eye test should include a virtual test drive or at least multi-choice. I like the virtual test drive as people tick the right answers in multi-choice but are likely to show there bad habits in a virtual test drive.

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    The one thing you can't change (not yet anyway) is the teenage brain. How many teenagers clearly think out the consequences of their actions? It's why you have 18yr olds signing up to the army, not 30yr olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    typical Jaffa. Head so far up your own arse you think the rest of NZ has arces of super city to play in. So you can travel for a whole day with out exceeding a 70 k zoen, bully for you. Any civilised person, that includes most Aucklanders btw know a bit more about the country they live in and are more aware of the issues of their fellow citizens. Was Plimmerton too hard for a poor little jaffa to google? The 70 k learners limit was BS when it was introduced and is still BS now. The pollies even realised having cars towing trailers at 20k below the limit is crap so too is forcing a motorcyclist to ride at 30 k below the limit especial when their width is so small as to encourage the following driver to look past them and even force their way past.
    You'e completely missing Lucky's point. You have choices!!! Choose to obey the law or choose not to ..

    I'm with Lucky on this one .. I exercise my power to choose every day ... sometimes I choose to stay at or under the speed limit - sometimes I don't ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    You'e completely missing Lucky's point. You have choices!!! Choose to obey the law or choose not to ..

    I'm with Lucky on this one .. I exercise my power to choose every day ... sometimes I choose to stay at or under the speed limit - sometimes I don't ...
    You think it fair to load that choice on a learner? How arrogant.

    Lucky's only point was learners should stay off higher speed roads ignoring that the lower speed roads can be more dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    You think it fair to load that choice on a learner? How arrogant.

    Lucky's only point was learners should stay off higher speed roads ignoring that the lower speed roads can be more dangerous.
    No! My only point was that you made a stupid statement and were wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylegs View Post
    No! My only point was that you made a stupid statement and were wrong. FACT
    you confuse fact with opinion which show how stupid you are. Fact is the 70k limit has been recognised as stupid and is being removed. Therefore you be stupid to argue it is good

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    I learnt to drive 35 years at 15, in a Morris 1300.
    Tought myself to ride a motorbike at a mates as my parents hated them.

    I'm teaching my son to drive in a 1970 VW....started off in the industrial estates and within a couple of weeks doing a bit of motorway and busy traffic.....40 HP, no power anything and manual......in fact I like it so much I leave the bike/van at home and drive the dub.....watch the world scurrying past to the next set of lights....
    I taught him to ride a dirt bike....but I can't say I'm keen on him riding a road bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    you confuse fact with opinion which show how stupid you are. Fact is the 70k limit has been recognised as stupid and is being removed. Therefore you be stupid to argue it is good
    Not at all... You appear to be confusing having access to a keyboard and the internet with assuming you have a basic comprehension of the english language!

    1. No where have I written that I outright agree with the limit, nor have I suggested that I have an 'issue' with people who chose to break it.
    2. What I have stated about your first post is fact! Y.O.U D.O N.O.T N.E.E.D T.O R.I.D.E A M.O.T.O.R.C.Y.C.L.E I.N A 7.0.K.+ Z.O.N.E IT IS YOUR CHOICE. You have other choices, Bus, train, car, bicylce, etc etc) Whether these are practicle is not the question.

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    ...Anyway, I didnt come in here to shoot fish in a barrel and since it aint increasing my post count, meh !

    Back to the general question (from the original post) of whether the idea that someone should do time on two wheels before moving to a car. I simply dont see it making a difference.

    My suggestion, and probably just as impracticle (spelling?) to implement is two have compulsory time at a morgue, hospital to see the results of road accidents... As per OAB's post above, this mean fack all to a teenager anyway...

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    I think so. Most people don't even seem to register that motorcycles exist, hence a lot of council roading and transport strategies. It will teach them the respect they should have for being allowed to control a 2 ton steel box where they can hurt other people instead of just themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    You think it fair to load that choice on a learner? How arrogant.

    Lucky's only point was learners should stay off higher speed roads ignoring that the lower speed roads can be more dangerous.
    Load it onto learners???? Fuck .. they have a choice now .. whether you accept it or not ... I certainly made those choices when I was a learner rider .. and probably, from your POV, I made the wrong choices ...

    I got my Thunderbird to 100mph when I was on a learner's licence (limit of 30mph from an admittedly poor memory ...)
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