Safety Horizon

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 18:57

Originally Posted by Katman

You kid yourself all you like.

When your eyes aren't moving your brain is not thinking of the things it should be at the time.

Fine stay within your own limitations. Just a question to burst your bubble...explain why people with no visul sensory input (no eyes, no eye movement) continue to think clearly and remain conscious.

Let me also add, that it is you that repeatedly keeps bringing up no eye movement (staring) as being equal to 'better (generally) to look ahead'

**Katman** · 25th September 2011, 19:00

Originally Posted by bluninja

Just a question to burst your bubble...explain why people with no visul sensory input (no eyes, no eye movement) continue to think clearly and remain conscious.

I bet they're not thinking about what is needed to deal with the continually changing environment that is a public road.

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 19:07

Originally Posted by Katman

I bet they're not thinking about what is needed to deal with the continually changing environment that is a public road.

Fail! try again. You have no idea have you? You just spout bullshit to cover your ignorance.

Try walking down a public pavement in town blindfolded with just a stick and your ears to keep you safe. Then tell me I bet they're not thinking about what is needed to deal with the continually changing environment that is a public road

Also whilst you're at it, try covering off how you keep coming back to the staring with no eye movement. You missed that out.....I wonder why.

**Katman** · 25th September 2011, 19:11

Originally Posted by bluninja

Also, all this looking around with lots of eye movement.....what a way to create fatigue.

If eye movement makes you tired, motorcycles might not be for you.

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 19:32

Originally Posted by Katman

If eye movement makes you tired, motorcycles might not be for you.

I didn't explain that clearly...lots of large and continuous eye movement fatigues the eye muscles..... some people may fatigue their eyes such that their eye's aren't working as quickly when they need them. There is also the tendency for eye's to focus on movement and then the head turns to get the full binocular effect. So lots of continuous large eye movements and head movement. More fatigue, more chance of target fixation.

Let's try to explain with a real life situation that most bikers wold encounter often. You are riding behind a car through 5 km of twisties with double yellow lines. Do you :-

a) Keep flicking your eyes between the car in front and the distance all the time.
b) look ahead beyond the car, keeping the car in your visual field and only move your eyes to the area around the car if an event occurs where there is a potential hazard that you need to evaluate and deal with.

Me, I use option b, and I don't fall asleep whilst following. In fact i would say I am more aware of the environment and more alert.

So back to your statement 'I bet they're not thinking about what is needed to deal with the continually changing environment that is a public road.'

Do you actually have a cogent supportable response?

**Katman** · 25th September 2011, 19:37

Originally Posted by bluninja

So back to your statement 'I bet they're not thinking about what is needed to deal with the continually changing environment that is a public road.'

Let me know when you've seen a motorcycle and rider being towed by a seeing eye dog.

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 19:41

Originally Posted by Katman

If eye movement makes you tired, motorcycles might not be for you.

Perhaps the reason I didn't have lots of crashes when I started motorcycling 31 years ago is that my brain is alert and my cognitive functions work well enough to keep me safe, whether I keep my eyes generally still or if I move them about.

After all your early mishaps, some people might say that motorcycling is not for you

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 19:44

Originally Posted by Katman

Let me know when you've seen a motorcycle and rider being towed by a seeing eye dog.

Better than that. Look here. But don't stare at it too long.

Owned.

**Katman** · 25th September 2011, 19:44

Originally Posted by bluninja

Perhaps the reason I didn't have lots of crashes when I started motorcycling 31 years ago is that my brain is alert and my cognitive functions work well enough to keep me safe, whether I keep my eyes generally still or if I move them about.

You're so retarded you don't even know your moving them.

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 19:49

Originally Posted by Katman

You're so retarded you don't even know your moving them.

Oh dear, the name calling, it sames you are unable to sustain your stance with reason and logic.

**Katman** · 25th September 2011, 19:53

Originally Posted by bluninja

Oh dear, the name calling, it sames you are unable to sustain your stance with reason and logic.

Oh dear, someone done broke your funny bone.

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 19:56

Originally Posted by Katman

Someone done broke your funny bone.

Retards don't have funny bones

**That looks like fun** · 25th September 2011, 19:57

What a shame that an intelligent thread with some good ideas is reduced from intelligent debate down to a slanging match about who has the biggest dick.

Oops sorry thought I wasn't on KB site sorry

as you were

**Katman** · 25th September 2011, 19:58

Originally Posted by That looks like fun

What a shame that an intelligent thread with some good ideas is reduced from intelligent debate down to a slanging match about who has the biggest dick.

I have.

**bluninja** · 25th September 2011, 20:00

Originally Posted by That looks like fun

What a shame that an intelligent thread with some good ideas is reduced from intelligent debate down to a slanging match about who has the biggest dick.

Oops sorry thought I wasn't on KB site sorry

as you were

My end is intelligent...but it's very small....so I have a big bike to compensate.