Safety Horizon

[Crasherfromwayback]

When the eyes are moving the brain is working.

Some peoples anyway...

[BuckBuck#1]

12 seconds though? I think you are out to lunch…
Who was it that suggested this '12 second' method to you? I wouldn't mind discussing NZ road and riding conditions with them.

The 12 second rule is a pretty common practice taught by many driving instructors.

Thanks for that Dean. You learn something new everyday. What surprised me was how close in distance terms 12 seconds actually is. So in practise I have always been scanning that far ahead, but never realised the theory.

I am happily standing corrected.

Seeing as my request to throw this thread into the Pointless Drivel has been ignored by a PM request to a Moderator, then I will continue in a positive spirit.

Blackdog, if and when we ever have lunch, it will be a twelve second iced-coffee, then on the road again. I am pleased that you acknowledged the theory.

Ride safe and enjoy

[Katman]

Seeing as my request to throw this thread into the Pointless Drivel has been ignored by a PM request to a Moderator, then I will continue in a positive spirit.

Stop being so ridiculously precious.

So the thread includes a discussion about the merits of eye movement. Hardly sufficient cause to start throwing your toys out of the cot.

[BuckBuck#1]

You're so retarded you don't even know your moving them.

Oh dear, the name calling, it sames you are unable to sustain your stance with reason and logic.

Oh dear, someone done broke your funny bone.

Retards don't have funny bones

What a shame that an intelligent thread with some good ideas is reduced from intelligent debate down to a slanging match about who has the biggest dick.


Oops sorry thought I wasn't on KB site sorry as you were

Thanks Buck Buck for posting something that was, I thought, of value to bikers and which was not taken as a personal attack on my riding ability.

Thanks for your supporting comments over the recent weeks Katman it was much appreciated.

However in this particular thread regarding Safety Horizon, both you and bluninja may have taken away from the "Survival Skills" Forum theme.

As the thread originator I believed the theme was unnecessarily side-tracked, and therefore the Moderator was asked to throw the thread into Pointless Drivel.

[Katman]

Quite frankly your original post was pure gibberish.

[PrincessBandit]

... then I will continue in a positive spirit..............

That's more like it. There will be some good discussion come out of the OP regardless of how "inane" it might appear.

I have found that chewing gum (or pretending to) helps keep my eyes open and focus on the road when fatigue starts to kick in.
As for the 12 second rule, staring at any one spot regardless of distance, will eventually mesmerise you - eyes lose focus, start to drift off...splat. Therefore I think it's more a case of continually scanning that amount of stretch ahead of you for warning signs of untoward obstacles.

[bluninja]

Twelve Seconds

Open road, nothing in front of you, straight as.

Stock crossing sign (or no sign)

How. What. Why – did s/he lose control?

Quite frankly your original post was pure gibberish.

My goodness we agree on something.

[bluninja]

In a positive spirit.....

Who cares if it's 12 seconds, 278 metres at 100kmh or the far horizon, what good methods are around to contain the flow of information so that one can ride and react to potential and real hazards without coming a to a complete halt or becoming so overloaded with information that you can no longer react properly when a hazard presents itself?

I work on a few simple principles.
1) Make sure I have my tyres on the best road surface available.
2) Position myself on the road to gain as full a picture of potential hazards as early as possible, but without breaking rule 1.
3) Be able to stop in the distance I can see to be clear, or have an escape route.