Building a Bucket.

**speedpro** · 18th July 2005, 18:19

Originally Posted by Ivan

My AG100 is going to be mounted in a MB100 chassis

Can't quite see the advantage of doing that. The MB chassis is kind of heavy and the suspension isn't fancy. You could probably get the Ag suspension working at least as good as MB springy bits, you'd replace the rear shocks anyway or go monoshock and it'd be easier to fit a good front end on the Ag rather than the MB. If you drop the MB front down to get it lower the rake ends up too steep and it is a job to fix. Jim Steadman's chassis is a Kawasaki 100 farm bike chassis and it is great. The suspension is where you need to do the work. If you make it monoshock you could remove the whole (heavy) rear frame and fabricate something nice and light.

**speedpro** · 18th July 2005, 18:23

Originally Posted by Ivan

I want to know if anyone is running a AG100 and what sort of expansion chamber design do you run. I have a book called two stroke performance tuning thanks to F5Dave.

If you aren't going to get one designed especially for your motor some of the guys here have used motocross pipes from something in the 80-125 range. 80 size is probably better. Use moto-X as they have somewhat broader powerbands which seem to work well on bucket tracks and bucket motors. They weigh less as well, make sure you get the muffler with it.

**hXc** · 18th July 2005, 19:33

Originally Posted by speedpro

If you aren't going to get one designed especially for your motor some of the guys here have used motocross pipes from something in the 80-125 range. 80 size is probably better. Use moto-X as they have somewhat broader powerbands which seem to work well on bucket tracks and bucket motors. They weigh less as well, make sure you get the muffler with it.

You're not allowed to run any motocross parts for bucket racing.

**Ivan** · 18th July 2005, 20:15

Yeah I have an RM80 expansion chamber but my brother is using that on his AG Hybrid RM80. I will design a pipe to suit the bike. Me and friend are getting into performance tuning aswell. Carbon fibre reeds Porting Expansion chambers etc. I am using MB100 chassis as it was given to me from a friend and was given a AG100 but it needed assembling. If any of you have had a chance to look at A. Graham Bell's Two Stroke Performance Tuning you would know what I mean when I say it is a race book. It tells you how to turn a shitter road bike into pretty much a GP bike it rules

**Ivan** · 18th July 2005, 20:16

Anyone here know what a set of AG Crank bearings will cost me and also a piston

**gav** · 18th July 2005, 20:34

Originally Posted by Ivan

If any of you have had a chance to look at A. Graham Bell's Two Stroke Performance Tuning you would know what I mean when I say it is a race book. It tells you how to turn a shitter road bike into pretty much a GP bike it rules

Really!?

You think when you've finished with the book you could send it to Mr Paul Denning c/- Suzuki MotoGP?

**speedpro** · 18th July 2005, 21:06

Originally Posted by XhardxcoreX

You're not allowed to run any motocross parts for bucket racing.

In the motor.

You could get a whole RS or CR/KX/YZ/whatever, pull the motor out and put in a Suzuki TS125 and go bucket racing, legally!

There's a link to the rules on this website from the Wellington guys:
http://www.scs.net.nz/scspromos.htm

**FROSTY:Me** · 18th July 2005, 21:18

maybee its just my soggy brain but I remember the old rg50 handled pretty well out of the box -could be a cheap chasis to start with
My thinking is for buckets in wellywood you need stiff light frames.

**TonyB** · 18th July 2005, 21:19

Originally Posted by gav

Really!?

You think when you've finished with the book you could send it to Mr Paul Denning c/- Suzuki MotoGP?

Na- it's for 2 strokes Gav. Think he has done one for 4 strokes as well.

Ivan, I was going to ask if A. Graham Bell's book is the one you have. I've got it too. Interesting stuff eh? I have one thing to say tho......
SHHHHHHH! you're giving away the secrets with which I intend to take over the Bucket world and rule it with a leather and kevlar fist. Muhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Did I say that out loud?

**speedpro** · 18th July 2005, 21:27

I think there's about 20 years development thats happened after Mr Bell's book was written. You won't rule the world using that. You'll be on the right track but you aint going to rule the world.

I have plans, oh yes. plans, lots of plans, and even a few bits. Haahahahahahaaaaharhar haaahahahahahaarrrrrrrha!The world will be minemine

Well, maybe.

**TonyB** · 18th July 2005, 21:33

Originally Posted by speedpro

I think there's about 20 years development thats happened after Mr Bell's book was written. You won't rule the world using that. You'll be on the right track but you aint going to rule the world.

I have plans, oh yes. plans, lots of plans, and even a few bits. Haahahahahahaaaaharhar haaahahahahahaarrrrrrrha!The world will be minemine

Well, maybe.

*Looks to the sky* There is anotheeeeeer......

**stanko** · 18th July 2005, 21:35

Hey Tony, Ive found the secret weapon for your devilish plan to rise to the top of Bucket infamy, a GP125 owners manual. Secret wiring diagrams , tyre sizes --- everything even how to adjust the clutch freeplay. They wont know what hit them !!

**dangerous** · 18th July 2005, 21:37

Originally Posted by stanko

Hey Tony, Ive found the secret weapon for your devilish plan to rise to the top of Bucket infamy, a GP125 owners manual. Secret wiring diagrams , tyre sizes --- everything even how to adjust the clutch freeplay. They wont know what hit them !!

And I see that you Mr stanko have bid on a bucket huh........ plan on taking us all to the cleaners now do ya