Don Brash: "We should decriminalise marijuana"

[superman]

Lets be realistic here... nobody in their right mind is going to play a game in which one of the objectives is to physically hurt other people without booze.

/edit: Sorry, no, money would do it too.

If you'd have watched the video you'd know the object of rugby isn't to physically hurt other people!

[husaberg]

The vast majority of cocaine users are highly paid professionals.

How does that stack up with your "logic"?

Stacks up quite nicely as as while most users of high grade cocaine may start out as highly paid professional they don't stay that way for long show me a functioning long term addict. The vast majority of cocaine users are users of crack cocaine BTW

[mashman]

I see that the narcotics haven't affected your reasoning then, I guess? The term narcotic has been bastardised and traditionally doesn't include marijuana
Have you ever read Preebles or Rodger Douglas's books? Nope, What's yer point?
Did you even realise they came from the Labour party? Nope, What's yer point
I am not talking the joints your mum was smoking during pregnancy either. What's yer point?
Shit lowering the drinking age was a good idea in your world too, I guess? Nope, What's yer point?
I bet you would be happy for your kids to do drugs as well? My son already does and I won't stop him. If he fucks up with them, that's his own lookout. What's yer point?
I suppose P gets a bad rap in your opinion as well? Yes, What's yer point?
Tell me Rhode scholar whats your occupation? I'm a programmer, amongst other things, What's yer point?
Does the idea of drug testing of beneficiaries offend you? Yes, What's yer point?
Drugs sure have not done you any harm after all, aye. Correct. What's yer point?

I'll be quite surprised if you can answer all these questions truthfully.

Do you actually have a point, or as mentioned elsewhere, are you a crackhead?

[husaberg]

Do you actually have a point, or as mentioned elsewhere, are you a crackhead?

I think I have made my point By your answers The drugs have obviously affected you and not in a positive way maybe you should be the poster boy for drugs law reform after all

PS You seem to have missed the answering true fully bit.

Lowering the drinking age have a look at the crime stats and the drink driving sats for 18-20 are you sure about the lowering of the drinking age or just not that bright.

Ps your signature says it all really.

[mashman]

Anyway dope heads, serious question time.
Obviously you smoke to change your perception of who & how you are, or similar.
Does that mean you are not happy with who you are & how you interact with people & arent entirely happy with where you wake up every day until you have a doobie?
Dont preach to me, ive probably smoked more dope than most of you back in the day, but I did something about my lot, & find im far to happy with who I am & where im at in life, to be bothered with a cheap kinda pathetic altered perception these days.

Edit, And an abusive red rep from imdying for this one, that clearly hit a nerve with him. If not needing pot to enjoy life makes me a wanker, then a wanker I am!! 'onya big fella, feel better now, or do you need a doobie for that?

@dope heads... excellent intro

Other than that, you're judging people using your own yard stick... ever think you may have abused it? after all, it made you miserable to the point where you felt that you needed to change your perception of yourself and your surroundings?

Do you drink?

[mashman]

I think I have made my point By your answers The drugs have obviously affected you and not in a positive way maybe you should be the poster boy for drugs law reform after all

PS You seem to have missed the answering true fully bit.

Lowering the drinking age have a look at the crime stats and the drink driving sats for 18-20 are you sure about the lowering of the drinking age or just not that bright.

Ps your signature says it all really.

Rather that than some form of sanctamonious, ignorant twat who thinks that anyone who has used a drug fits perfectly into your stereotype.

Where did I lie oh Oracle?

If you had read my answers, I answered no to lowering the age of drinking. You really aren't paying attention are you? Are you a politician?

Again, What's your point? As you haven't answered any of my questions, and to quote a great man

You do have problems answering questions don't you.
I remember our last discussion You are quite thick on rhetoric but real thin on Answers to what atre simple questions and revert to snide remarks.
If your point of view is able to withstand scrutiny. You would think you would be able to answer simple questions.

[jazfender]

Anyway dope heads, serious question time.
Obviously you smoke to change your perception of who & how you are, or similar.
Does that mean you are not happy with who you are & how you interact with people & arent entirely happy with where you wake up every day until you have a doobie?

It's weed, not psychedelics.

Dont preach to me, ive probably smoked more dope than most of you back in the day, but I did something about my lot, & find im far to happy with who I am & where im at in life, to be bothered with a cheap kinda pathetic altered perception these days.

You sound like more of a preacher than anybody else here.

Fuck's sake, the worst kind of non-smokers are ex-smokers.

[husaberg]

Rather than than some form of sanctamonious, ignorant twat who thinks that anyone who has used a drug fits perfectly into your stereotype.

Where did I lie oh Oracle?

If you had read my answers, I answered no to lowering the age of drinking. You really aren't paying attention are you? Are you a politician?

Again, What's your point? As you hven'tnswered any of my questions, and to create a great man

I would clearly not ask you how to create a great man. Whats your point is not a question as you are clearly not capable of reaching into your sole and being true to yourself, but then again addicts like most criminals are quite good at justifying they actions and inaction's aren't they.

Drugs haven't done you any harm?It answers it self really.

Yes I did miss your point about the lowering of the drinking age.
I guess you are the typical drug user to amongst other things
So P is real good stuf is it and good for you doesn't lead to crime in your opinion as well.

For every functioning drug user I could point out 3x as many non functioning ones.

Anyway the argument is about the motives into decriminalating Dope as proposed by Don.

[mashman]

I would clearly not ask you how to create a great man. Whats your point is not a question as you are clearly not capable of reaching into your sole and being true to yourself, but then again addicts like most criminals are quite good at justifying they actions and inaction's aren't they.

Is that it? Is that all you have? Picking on typos... you are desperate... and as I suspected, you don't have a point, you don't read the answers to the questions you pose... someone's been blowing smoke out of their ass ... and it's you!

Again, do you have a point?

Perhaps you should go back and read my answers, I answered the one about P too... unless of course you think P getting a bad rap should be answered with a No?

Dude, how wasted are you?

[husaberg]

Is that it? Is that all you have? Picking on typos... you are desperate... and as I suspected, you don't have a point, you don't read the answers to the questions you pose... someone's been blowing smoke out of their ass ... and it's you!

To have a rational argument you would need to be rational.
For me to debate with you you would need to have be capable of rational thought.

You are the Poster boy of why Dope shouldn't be decriminalised.
Show me the benefits of doing it.

Ps I make as many, if not more typos than you. I don't give a shit about grammar
But I do give a shit about my kids and in future hopefully grand kids welfare.

That the fact that you need to take drugs to cope with your life proves it isn't as great as you thing it is.

[imdying]

Dope shouldn't be decriminalised.
Show me the benefits of doing it.

We can tax the shite out of for starters. I'd rather that than another ACC increase

Gotta ask though, why not a hard line on booze if you're worried about your kids and grand kids?

[Usarka]

Stacks up quite nicely as as while most users of high grade cocaine may start out as highly paid professional they don't stay that way for long show me a functioning long term addict. The vast majority of cocaine users are users of crack cocaine BTW

In common usage cocaine does not refer to crack cocaine. Cocaine (in the common usage) is not addictive.

And from personal experience, 100% of highly paid professionals that I know of who have used cocaine are still highly paid professionals.

To have a rational argument you would need to be rational.
For me to debate with you you would need to have be capable of rational thought.

Yeah about that. You sound like someone who either gets their "rational thought" from wikipedia or you have no real world experience with what you are discussing. From observation Mr Mash appears much wiser than you do........

[mashman]

To have a rational argument you would need to be rational.
For me to debate with you you would need to have be capable of rational thought.

You are the Poster boy of why Dope shouldn't be decriminalised.
Show me the benefits of doing it.

Ps I make as many, if not more typos than you. I don't give a shit about grammar
But I do give a shit about my kids and in future hopefully grand kids welfare.

That the fact that you need to take drugs to cope with your life proves it isn't as great as you thing it is.

You have yet to make a point. There has been no debate. To be capable of rational thought, you have to see both sides of the "argument". You have yet to show any form rationality. All you have done is throw a little mud and ignore the answers given to your questions... just like a politician.

Why am I the poster boy? You have yet to put your side of the "argument" across. I have yet to claim that there are any benefits. What are the benefits of not doing it?

PS... yet YOU feel the need to point out MY typos... narcissism much? I give a shit about my kids future too... Do you class alcohol as a drug?

I don't need to take drugs for any reason. Why do you think that I do?

See if you can answer at least 1 question that I have posted Mr ADHD

[scumdog]

The vast majority of cocaine users are highly paid professionals.

How does that stack up with your "logic"?

Selling illegal drugs full-time for lucrative profit doesn't rate as 'highly paid professional' in my books.

[Teflon]