MB100 development

[datfreak]

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The cylinder fits 100 engine,, actually it´s made for the 100cc engine.
And the mb8 guys are lucky as it is a direct bolt on.

So this kit will fit mb100 and h100 bottom end? Anything special need to be done - ie head work, compression ratios etc?
Are the ports nice or need reworking ? it is a very nice price - i sent athena a email asking for more details.

Any easy front end swaps for the h100? Id like a spoked , light (small tube) setup. Does a mid-late 80's cr85 (disc one)triple tree fit without too much drama?
I need a new f brake cable, hopefully ill find a a hyd front end, so i wont have too


thanks koba for mentioning the 2 stroke tuning book, I got a oopy and read for a few hours.
Interesting - some of the blackart isn't so black anymore. Max port widths, ref to other high power 2 stroke bike port timings, runner shapes compression ratios etc etc awesome stuff. I wish its ignition section had more ref to other bikes ignition timing curves but its a wealth of info.

[husaberg]

So this kit will fit mb100 and h100 bottom end? Anything special need to be done - ie head work, compression ratios etc?
Are the ports nice or need reworking ? it is a very nice price - i sent athena a email asking for more details.

Any easy front end swaps for the h100? Id like a spoked , light (small tube) setup. Does a mid-late 80's cr85 (disc one)triple tree fit without too much drama?
I need a new f brake cable, hopefully ill find a a hyd front end, so i wont have too


thanks koba for mentioning the 2 stroke tuning book, I got a oopy and read for a few hours.
Interesting - some of the blackart isn't so black anymore. Max port widths, ref to other high power 2 stroke bike port timings, runner shapes compression ratios etc etc awesome stuff. I wish its ignition section had more ref to other bikes ignition timing curves but its a wealth of info.

Somewhere i have posted the Bearing sizes, honda only used a few. watch for stem length.
A Gl145 front end would look right.

this is the bearing size you will have.
Upper: 22.5 x 41 x 12.5
Lower: 24 x 41 x 12.5
Honda MB-5-50 (82)
Honda MR-50/K1 (74-75)
Honda MT50Z, MTX50
Honda NSF50F (90)
Honda Z50A/K3-K5/RH/RJ, Z50A (71-76)
Honda Z50R (79-87), Z50RD (86)
Honda CR60R (83)
Honda ATC70/K1 (73-74), ATC70 (78-85)
Honda CL70/K1-K3 (69-73)
Honda CT70/K1-K4 (69-76), CT70H/HK1 (70-73), CT70 (76-82)
Honda SL70/K1 (71-73)
Honda XL70 (74-76)
Honda XL75 (77-79)
Honda XR75 (73-7Cool
Honda MB80, MBX80RFD/RSD
Honda MTX80/C
Honda XL80S (80-85)
Honda XR80 (79-84), XR80RF-R (86-9Cool
Honda ATC90 (75-85)
Honda CS90
Honda CT90 (68-79)
Honda SL90 (69)
Honda ST90K1-K4
Honda CB/CL100/K1-K3 (76-7Cool
Honda SL100/K1-K3 (70-73)
Honda XL100/K1 (74-75), XL100/S (76-85)
Honda XR100RP-R (85-9Cool
Honda ATC110 (79-85)
Honda CT110 (80-86)
Honda XL110/S (76-85)
Honda ATC125M (84-87)
Honda CB125/S (76-85), CB125T/J (78-81), CB125TT (90)
Honda CG125
Honda CM125T/J (82-85)
Honda CR125M/M1 (74-7Cool
Honda CT125 (77), CT125H/J/K (87-89)
Honda MBX125
Honda MT125 (74-76), MT125R/RII (77-7Cool
Honda SL125/K1/K2
Honda TL125/K1/K2/S (73-76)
Honda XL125K-3 (78-79), XL125S (79-85)
Honda MR175K (75-77)
Honda ATC185/S (80-83)
Honda CM185C (7Cool, CM185T (78-79)
Honda XL185S (79-83), XL185SH/SJ/SK
Honda XR185 (79)
Honda ATC200 (79-83), ATC200E Big Red (82-84), ATC200S (84-85)
Honda CM200T (80-82)
Honda XR200 (80-83)
Honda CB250N (Late Models)
Honda CBX250F (85)
Honda CM250C (82-86), CM250T (80-82), CMX250C/CD (85-87)

[datfreak]

Thanks husaberg - ill look into that. Yes the bearing kit does fit a lot of hondas.

The www.50cc.eu people got back to me and thinks that the 57mm WILL fit.
He updated the website today with tune up bits for the H100 ! See HERE.
Some of the exhausts look neat - would be nice to know full specs though.

They also comfirmed that they will send to Aust-- so should also send to kiwi land

[richban]

Husa.

You got a bike yet?

[husaberg]

Husa.

You got a bike yet?

Not so much........


A little boy waits...

Well still Got the berg, got the Supermoto......ain't got the F-ing Nsr125 motor yet..........
But i guess you are meaning "the world longest Bucket build"
Got the chassis got most of the other bits wheel brakes etc...
Got many 1000's of dollars invested in casting my own cylinders..
Can't do f-all without the motor can't even do the wheels properly.
Should have brought a bloody FXR. (can't believe i said that) Or not sold off all the H100 engine stuff.

On the plus side pretty soon i will be lighter than the bike.

But you are right Rich.... if i don't see and Engine soon. say end of the month i am going to build up another MB100 only 125 with an 24mm oko and sling it in the RS125 chassis.
It will be like Daves only a "Honda" i guess

[Grumph]

Husa - has Wob managed to get John H to bring the NSR motor south ? i know John slightly and could collect and bring over at labour weekend.

[mr bucketracer]

Not so much........


A little boy waits...

Well still Got the berg, got the Supermoto......ain't got the F-ing Nsr125 motor yet..........
But i guess you are meaning "the world longest Bucket build"
Got the chassis got most of the other bits wheel brakes etc...
Got many 1000's of dollars invested in casting my own cylinders..
Can't do f-all without the motor can't even do the wheels properly.
Should have brought a bloody FXR. (can't believe i said that) Or not sold off all the H100 engine stuff.

On the plus side pretty soon i will be lighter than the bike.

But you are right Rich.... if i don't see and Engine soon. say end of the month i am going to build up another MB100 only 125 with an 24mm oko and sling it in the RS125 chassis.
It will be like Daves only a "Honda" i guess

you should of done the work your self and get job satisfaction from it.

[Bert]

Not so much........


A little boy waits...

Well still Got the berg, got the Supermoto......ain't got the F-ing Nsr125 motor yet..........
But i guess you are meaning "the world longest Bucket build"
Got the chassis got most of the other bits wheel brakes etc...
Got many 1000's of dollars invested in casting my own cylinders..
Can't do f-all without the motor can't even do the wheels properly.
Should have brought a bloody FXR. (can't believe i said that) Or not sold off all the H100 engine stuff.

On the plus side pretty soon i will be lighter than the bike.

But you are right Rich.... if i don't see and Engine soon. say end of the month i am going to build up another MB100 only 125 with an 24mm oko and sling it in the RS125 chassis.
It will be like Daves only a "Honda" i guess

Well if Wob-John H can get it to Palmy.
Then we might be able to fit it in the truck coming south for the BOB. then you can drive over and help for the day and maybe consume a little!!!
This is the longest build; no wait, Ivan........

[F5 Dave]

Not so much........


A little boy waits...

Well still Got the berg, got the Supermoto......ain't got the F-ing Nsr125 motor yet..........
But i guess you are meaning "the world longest Bucket build"
Got the chassis got most of the other bits wheel brakes etc...
Got many 1000's of dollars invested in casting my own cylinders..
Can't do f-all without the motor can't even do the wheels properly.
Should have brought a bloody FXR. (can't believe i said that) Or not sold off all the H100 engine stuff.

On the plus side pretty soon i will be lighter than the bike.

But you are right Rich.... if i don't see and Engine soon. say end of the month i am going to build up another MB100 only 125 with an 24mm oko and sling it in the RS125 chassis.
It will be like Daves only a "Honda" i guess

nah mine is an LC now. But I did see those 125 kits and think would be an easy start.

[mr bucketracer]

Well if Wob-John H can get it to Palmy.
Then we might be able to fit it in the truck coming south for the BOB. then you can drive over and help for the day and maybe consume a little!!!
This is the longest build; no wait, Ivan........

just think i could give it a port job

[husaberg]

Husa - has Wob managed to get John H to bring the NSR motor south ? i know John slightly and could collect and bring over at labour weekend.

You know as much as i do, Mike is having similar issues, but if it does arrive in CHCH that would be awesome, i am over the weekend of the 12th though

Well if Wob-John H can get it to Palmy.
Then we might be able to fit it in the truck coming south for the BOB. then you can drive over and help for the day and maybe consume a little!!!
This is the longest build; no wait, Ivan........

I think it was supposed to go direct to CHCH with some guy and the Ivan that is a low blow..............probably deserve it though....

nah mine is an LC now. But I did see those 125 kits and think would be an easy start.

i was meaning the honda stuff bt yes it would appear to be the way to go for an easy build. But then again it still has to be modded a lot in the cases to fit the RS chassis anyway i was hoping to avoid that with the NSR engine.

you should of done the work your self and get job satisfaction from it.

Yes i should have but it likely still wouldn't be finished anyway

[Bert]

I think it was supposed to go direct to CHCH with some guy and the Ivan that is a low blow..............probably deserve it though....

I think you read my post wrong... but nevermind.

Third longest bucket build.... Ivan, me then you.
Nope; wrong again... I've raced and destroyed mine twice so the list goes; Ivan, husa then me......

[Kickaha]

Yes i should have but it likely still wouldn't be finished anyway

Saves you the embarrassment of being thrashed by the Mighty GN at the BOB I guess

[F5 Dave]

Diesel and DC had mounted MB engines with std cases by compromising forward placement without too much issue, also frame spar mounts. Carb placement difficult, Diesel did rose joints, but DC had large engine thus 24mm carb, seemed to fit.

[husaberg]

Well if Wob-John H can get it to Palmy.
Then we might be able to fit it in the truck coming south for the BOB. then you can drive over and help for the day and maybe consume a little!!!
This is the longest build; no wait, Ivan........

I think you read my post wrong... but nevermind.

Third longest bucket build.... Ivan, me then you.
Nope; wrong again... I've raced and destroyed mine twice so the list goes; Ivan, husa then me......

Yeah i did, i just seen me in the same sentence as the "Ivan".
After i seen that i was too busy running about "bitch slapping" myself to hear anything else........
My last update was Wob was giving it to a guy to run up to Auckland, and then i thought a kart guy to go direct i thought to CHCH. ( i will pm him again)
One things for certain though Husaberg is totally 100% off the piss for the foreseeable future i am afraid.

Saves you the embarrassment of being thrashed by the Mighty GN at the BOB I guess

Your right. One of us would have to commit Harri Kari (but my money would still be on the GN ended up disemboweled with or without me there)

Diesel and DC had mounted MB engines with std cases by compromising forward placement without too much issue, also frame spar mounts. Carb placement difficult, Diesel did rose joints, but DC had large engine thus 24mm carb, seemed to fit.

Say what with the rose joints? the mounts? confused........
Mine is already sans the front mounts from it's previous existence as a YZ250 powered F3