Wayne Gardner demands immediate TT ban

[Matt Bleck]

http://www.crash.net/road+racing/new...te_tt_ban.html

[Taz]

What a wally he is.

[manxkiwi]

Yeah, lets ban everything that's dangerous! Tiddley Winks anyone? With safety glasses, of course!

[Quasievil]

I fully Support Mr Gardener actually, and good on him for voicing his opinion.
Events with a Death rate like this shouldn't be promoted and held.

Bikers think they are invincible, once they are dead its to late to change their opinion.

If Pukekohe had a crash rate with every nationals round of one or two riders would you accept this as an event............no (be honest)

[Kickaha]

I fully Support Mr Gardener actually, and good on him for voicing his opinion.
Events with a Death rate like this shouldn't be promoted and held.

I would have to disagree and I would race there if I could afford to even with knowing the risks , others would choose not to and that is their choice

The fact that people continue to enter every year despite the fatalities shows that a considerable amount of people don't share either Waynes or your view of the event

If Pukekohe had a crash rate with every nationals round of one or two riders would you accept this as an event............no (be honest)

The comparison to Puke isn't really relevant as the mileage covered at the Isle of Man would be more than we do in a few seasons of Nationals but like every any event it would be up to the riders to decide whether they would enter or not

[Quasievil]

I would have to disagree and I would race there if I could afford to even with knowing the risks , others would choose not to and that is their choice

The fact that people continue to enter every year despite the fatalities shows that a considerable amount of people don't share either Waynes or your veiw of the event



The comaprison to Puke isn't really relevant as the mileage covered at the Isle of Man would be more than we do in a few seasons of Nationals but like every any event it would be up to the riders to deicide whether thay would enter or not

Compare it to any track you like, but the risk doesnt stack up to the gains, assumming you survive which each year a few dont.

anyway thats my opinion.

[Bren]

Personally I think he is right....It is a dangerous track that should be consigned to the trash bin of history. every year there seems to be always one death at least. 227 deaths in 103 years....

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah lets ban dying. Especially if you're doing something you enjoy when you die. That should be a capital offense.

If Mr Gardner doesn't want to ride there, that's fine. But that shouldn't stop others who do want to race there from going.

Bikers think they are invincible, once they are dead its to late to change their opinion.

Do they? I know plenty of riders, I'm one myself, and none of us think we're invincible.

[Quasievil]

Yeah lets ban dying. Especially if you're doing something you enjoy when you die. That should be a capital offence.

Lets have events that encourage dying, who are the dead guys next year, a few low ranked riders in pursuit of some cash.

[onearmedbandit]

Lets have events that encourage dying, who are the dead guys next year, a few low ranked riders in pursuit of some cash.

But isn't that their choice? No one forced them to go bike racing. No one forced them to race at the IoM. And prey tell, how does the IoM 'encourage dying'? Is there prize money for the most spectacular death?

[dipshit]

While the likes of Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo and Loris Capirossi may have lapped the circuit as a guest appearance... I bet they wouldn't race/compete there.

[onearmedbandit]

They probably wouldn't, too much to risk and their contracts probably prohibit it. There is no denying the track is dangeous, that many riders have been killed there (probably more than any other track), but as long as there is no conscription for the IoM I'm happy for those that volunteer to race there to do their thing.

[dipshit]

But isn't that their choice? No one forced them to go bike racing. No one forced them to race at the IoM. And prey tell, how does the IoM 'encourage dying'? Is there prize money for the most spectacular death?

Of course no one who lives on the Isle minds the huge influx of people and business each year. They won't want it stopped. What do they care if a few riders have to pay the ultimate price each year. Their country would be a muddy forgotten backwater without it.

[Kickaha]

Of course no one who lives on the Isle minds the huge influx of people and business each year. They won't want it stopped. What do they care if a few riders have to pay the ultimate price each year. Their country would be a muddy forgotten backwater without it.

I think you would find the riders wouldn't want it stopped either, if they did they wouldn't be entering year after year

[onearmedbandit]

Of course no one who lives on the Isle minds the huge influx of people and business each year. They won't want it stopped. What do they care if a few riders have to pay the ultimate price each year. Their country would be a muddy forgotten backwater without it.

So who forces the racers to go there? Honestly?

Maybe the prize money is too much of a carrot. But if someone wants to live their life their way and risk it all for some money and a chance to get their name in the record books (or the obituaries) in a legal event then who is anyone to tell them they can't.

Or am I missing something?