Denmark introduces fat tax

[oneofsix]

The kicker is that silly BMI (body mass index) that you see in Dr's waiting rooms.

According to that, Im ever so slightly obese at 182cm and 80kg.

Pfffffffttttt. Whoever came up with that is FOS.

Who came up with the BMI or who pushes it? It is a tool of the USA medical insurance industry, used to evaluate risks and costs. Quite recently they reduced the Mass per height as well.
Guess what their angle is.

[Zedder]

And funnily enough, fuck all in the way of "reduced fat" "low fat" foods for sale either. In fact global obesity has increased since people took the advice of cutting fat from their diet.



Bwahahaahaaaaaaaa



I don't think anyone is advocating the removal of the standards, just pointing out that they are a mile wide. Nestle would be a good example of a company that produces a crap-ton of food that meets relevant standards but isn't particularly good for people. Also food standards are maintained by the same people that actually believe that fat per se is bad for you oooooh.

Government manipulated statistics also show that motorcycling is bad for you too, let's get them to increase the tax on that as well.

Oh.
Snap.

If it wasn't for your avatar etc I might take you seriously, but I can't.

[SPman]

Tax Hydrogenated vegetable oils and Trans fats, sure, they are lethal to you, but animal fat doesn't actually do any harm - nor butter, eggs, decent milk, etc. They should hammer sugar and simple carbohydrates as well.

[jonbuoy]

If they were really interested in making people healthier shouldn´t they be subsidising fresh fruit and veges?

[oneofsix]

Tax Hydrogenated vegetable oils and Trans fats, sure, they are lethal to you, but animal fat doesn't actually do any harm - nor butter, eggs, decent milk, etc. They should hammer sugar and simple carbohydrates as well.

wooo up SPman, you can't go saying stuff like that.
Hydrogenated vegetable oils and Trans fats are good, haven't you paid attention to the spin for the last 50 or so years. These are your margarine and cooking oils and such like. These are manufactured by corporations and cost money that goes back to businessmen, make that shareholders, and as we know corporations, by the disassociated group nature, have no soul and therefore can't be bad.
Animal fats on the other hand can still be obtained at little or no cost in some under developed parts of the world and are therefore bad.
Simple It's not about health its about corporate products. In future when you talk health remember to blame the powerless at the bottom of the pile, never the rich and powerful corporations. The rich and powerful corporations are our heroes. This is why Coke can charge more for water than their name product in places where the only safe water has to be bought, proves sugar must be good.

[Smifffy]

If it wasn't for your avatar etc I might take you seriously, but I can't.

Glad to see you bring facts into the discussion at last

[Brian d marge]

fatty foods
wasn't one of them Greek thinking types who said if you don't change your diet you are making your doctor rich...
if you look at the Americans, and think, fat fkrs have a look at the size of the average NZ er
Its not how much we eat, per say, yes the portion sizes have crept up, I think a hamburger meal in the 1970s was the size of our small fries and coke.
but also we are eating a lot of calorie dense food, , we were talking about this today and most of my friends eat over half of the plate in veg es, and at least a quarter in rice and very little meat.
hence they are generally skinny here
there are a number of programs on u tune, the peter Jennings interview about food, and knife over fork
the peter Jennings interview shows how bad the food industry is ( in America) but similarities are , well similar
knife over fork, suggested, ( with some pretty convincing data) that cancers can be triggered by a western diet, and promoted a wholefood diet, ie very little meat and milk products
and showed that in older men, getting a stiffie could be a problem and is caused by blocking of the small vein and is a good indication of heart disease .....and could be reversed by eating veges...aka almost vegan ( no I'm English and will fight and die for my Danish smoky middle back ...bacon)
seriously look into the food industry and what you eat, it scared the doo doo out of me
on saying this, I'm in a restrauant, for lunch and have eaten escargo , salad, and a small seafood pizza, washed down by a half bottle of french red plonk...and might order the mussels, ...5% left on me battery ....
don't get me started on that crap that some people call beer, that stye is pure sugar, water, and my biggest reason why I'm 82 kg when I should be 78...... BA star d......
oh pie, I like pie.........by for now

stephen

[Usarka]

I bought some dripping for the first time in my life yesterday. Wanted some bacon fat to make some refried beans but the supermarket doesn't sell it so will try with dripping instead.

If that doesn't work I guess it's a bacon fest coming up

[Ocean1]

I bought some dripping for the first time in my life yesterday. Wanted some bacon fat to make some refried beans but the supermarket doesn't sell it so will try with dripping instead.

If that doesn't work I guess it's a bacon fest coming up

How do you make refried beans?

... and how have you survived this long without beef dripping?

[Usarka]

How do you make refried beans?

... and how have you survived this long without beef dripping?

Aye good question about the dripping....

Refried beans gets lost in translation, it actually means 'beans fried to fuck and back' or something like that in mexican. I'll have to dig out my recipe because my memory is toast, but it basically involves chucking beans into a frying pan with fat (or oil if you're a blouse) and mashing them. Salt is required to bring out the flavour. Whizzed onion, garlic, chili, cumin all go well.

I use tins of black beans. Nicer and more authentic flavour, and they don't look like the dog's had the runs on the frypan.

Mmmmmm, i need a Sol....

[Ocean1]

Refried beans gets lost in translation, it actually means 'beans fried to fuck and back' or something like that in mexican.

Traditionaly not fried at all, never did get an adequate explanation about the name.

I do a good chili with black beans, though. Starts by rendering a bacon hock...

[Usarka]

I do a good chili with black beans, though. Starts by rendering a bacon hock...

I bow in envy to your culinary awesomness

[Ocean1]

I bow in envy to your culinary awesomness

In honour of the thread title I might just mention in passing... Deep fried peanut butter and banana club sandwiches on double chocolate ice cream.

PS: whadaya rekon the tax on that would be?

[p.dath]

"The new tax is intended to reduce people's intake of fatty foods." ... Why do these things always have to be dealt with via taxation? We know that those who like fatty foods will just pay the extra and carry on, I guess that's the point. Is there nothing better than financial penalty? and on food of all things.

I can't wait to see the results in a couple of yeas. At this stage, with obesity looming as the developed world's number 1 health problem, I'm supporting the tax.

There is a huge amount of money being poured into marketing of high fat foods to encourage people to eat more and more of it - and despite many people knowing that eating huge quantities of saturated fats is really bad to their health - they can't resist. Financial "penalties" sends a strong message.

Education campaigns have been tried in the past, and haven't worked. I don't know what other options really exist.

If the problem with obesity was not so big, and the effect of people's health was not so severe, and the cost of the healthcare on the public system was not so big I would not support this tax. People should have a right to choose to live their life the way they want to without interference from the state. But in this case, I don't really believe that obese people with severe health problems really do want to live the life they do, and that a large part of the problem has been created by external influences (aka, fast food manufacturers with big marketing budgets) - and not (this bit is important) through the freedom of their own choice.

So if private industry markets to remove this freedom of choice, and it is to such a large extent that it is harmful to the people, then it is time for the state to step in.

Tough call, I know.

Those people that don't eat large amounts of saturated fat foods wont be that affected. It is a simple user pays tax.

[Ocean1]

But in this case, I don't really believe that obese people with severe health problems really do want to live the life they do

For their own good eh?

Fuck me, where do I start; the road to hell...?

Nope, there's so much wrong with that post I can't deal with it all. I'll have to make do with:

MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.