Are cagers too far disconnected?

[Sable]

That's when we take the MX5 out for a spin, to remnd us how much fun driving can be.

I believe your type usually refer to that as 'cruising'.

[onearmedbandit]

Most modern cages (Euros being the 1st) take the road experience away from the user, suspension takes any feeling away, pedals are no longer connected to that which they control, fully sealed, sound deaded & even slightly pressurized cabs remove all perception of speed/moverment, hell even the steering is no longer connected to the wheels.

A modern cage driver is fully seperated from the road they are driving on all in the name of "comfort". I myself cannot stand these modern monstrosities I like to feel connected, I like to be in control, I like to drive!!! I'll continue to stick to 80's & early 90's cages becuase of this, but I do think this "comfort" is starting to have a real detrimental effect on safety.

Maybee thats part the reason why beemers & mercs are such bad drivers??? These 2 manufacturers do lead the way when it comes to "comfort" features, and if your've ever driven a modern one you know how far disconected you are from the road, its sorta like driving a car on the PS2.

Spend a lot of time driving these cars do you? I do, it's my job. Audi's, BMW's, Merc's. And whilst they all drive far better than any Japanese car, they most certainly do not disconnect you from the driving experience any more than any Japanese vehicle, in fact they accentuate it with far better response and road handling. Maybe it's all just a matter of opinion.

And what car prey tell no longer has the steering connected to the wheels? (Do I take it that you mean the steering wheel?) It is a requirement that all vehicles have a mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the steering wheels. Unless you mean power steer. Which has been common place on most vehicles since the 80's (except NZ new vehicles lol).

As someone else paraphrased, don't blame the car, blame the driver. Cars don't crash by themselves. People instruct them to crash.

[MIXONE]

The car he was driving was a 99 Merc and the dash lights were fucked so hardly a modern,well appointed car eh...

[onearmedbandit]

Depending on the model a '99 Merc may still be more highly appointed than a 2011 mid-range vehicle. It will certainly be ahead of a sub $20k 2011 vehicle.

[bogan]

People instruct them to crash.

Or forget to instruct them not to!

[EJK]

Maybee thats part the reason why beemers & mercs are such bad drivers??? These 2 manufacturers do lead the way when it comes to "comfort" features, and if your've ever driven a modern one you know how far disconected you are from the road, its sorta like driving a car on the PS2.

They are purposely designed to cruise on the Autobahn, not some 100kph limit in NZ.

[onearmedbandit]

I find MB C and E class vehicles to be quite rewarding to drive, same as BMW's 3 and 5 series. The S class (AMG excluded) and 7 series however are not so inspiring. But that doesn't make me drive them with any less care and attention.

[Big Dave]

I find MB C and E class vehicles to be quite rewarding to drive, same as BMW's 3 and 5 series. The S class (AMG excluded) and 7 series however are not so inspiring. But that doesn't make me drive them with any less care and attention.

We had a E55 AMG for a while. Accelerated like a Hyabusa. You'd never use it all on the road, no spare tyre, yada yada, so we swapped it over for the S500 we still have now.

Wouldn't mind 'connecting' with one of these newer ones:

[superman]

Once computer driven cars are mainstream it'll be only those who truly enjoy driving or riding that will actively control their vehicle. Those who are disconnected will get their wish of being even more disconnected and a car will become a transportable private lounge.

[jonbuoy]

One thing I notice between my mgb gt and other modern cars is the visibility, the mgb has no blindspots to speak of, modern cars have massive vertical pillars which have huge blindspots. You need to keep bobbing your head around them to see properly. X

[Indiana_Jones]

One thing I notice between my mgb gt and other modern cars is the visibility, the mgb has no blindspots to speak of, modern cars have massive vertical pillars which have huge blindspots. You need to keep bobbing your head around them to see properly. X

Chrome or rubber bumper?

When I drove my BGT, the only blind spot really was the car in front. Since the car is so damn low you can't ee anything of the road in front if there's another car there

-Indy

[Edbear]

I believe your type usually refer to that as 'cruising'.

We had a E55 AMG for a while. Accelerated like a Hyabusa. You'd never use it all on the road, no spare tyre, yada yada, so we swapped it over for the S500 we still have now.

Wouldn't mind 'connecting' with one of these newer ones:

My mate's had his E55 AMG for a few years now and loves it! He drives a vehicle as they were intended and doesn't baby it. Mind bending to watch the fuel use when he gives it the berries!

[Edbear]

I believe your type usually refer to that as 'cruising'.

My type? What might that be? Yes I like to cruise and enjoy the scenery which suited the C50T but as with the MX5 they can step right along if you ask the question! Several friends have been very impressed with what I can do with modest HP...

If you put Shaun or Craig Shirriffs on a 250 there'd be precious few who could match them on the road.

The MX5 is testament to what you can do with just 130hp...

[Indiana_Jones]

The MX5 is testament to what you can do with just 130hp...

Shit I wish I had 100 bhp lol

-Indy

[imdying]

One thing I notice between my mgb gt and other modern cars is the visibility, the mgb has no blindspots to speak of, modern cars have massive vertical pillars which have huge blindspots. You need to keep bobbing your head around them to see properly. X

If you get punted upside down by a courier driver yet again running a red light, you'll probably die in the MGB GT.