Occupy Dunedin?

[oldrider]

this could get interesting... fuckin good on 'em

Still a case of "A" and "B" fighting .... for the benefit of "C" where "C" = the 1%!

C did not get where they are by being careless or stupid and they are well prepared for "every" attack on their rice bowl!

[mashman]

Still a case of "A" and "B" fighting .... for the benefit of "C" where "C" = the 1%!

C did not get where they are by being careless or stupid and they are well prepared for "every" attack on their rice bowl!

I care not, given that people will take their houses back. Guess we'll see what happens should the 1% decide that they're not allowed to do that. As posted earlier, this'll show the game for what it is if they "retaliate". But I take you point. Hopefully B will figure it out at some point.

I agree... but how far will B go to defend C? given that A are currently peaceful.

[oldrider]

I care not, given that people will take their houses back. Guess we'll see what happens should the 1% decide that they're not allowed to do that. As posted earlier, this'll show the game for what it is if they "retaliate". But I take you point. Hopefully B will figure it out at some point.

I agree... but how far will B go to defend C? given that A are currently peaceful.

Create a need, exploit the greed .... loyalty? .... he who pays the piper calls the tune and "C" is the great conductor of the symphony of life!

When A and B are lulled into total confusion and mistrust they will be at each others throats, that is the creative role of the media!

The occupiers have just begun, C (the 1%) on the other hand has a world of experience in these matters, it is what they do and have done it since time began!

[mashman]

Create a need, exploit the greed .... loyalty? .... he who pays the piper calls the tune and "C" is the great conductor of the symphony of life!

When A and B are lulled into total confusion and mistrust they will be at each others throats, that is the creative role of the media!

The occupiers have just begun, C (the 1%) on the other hand has a world of experience in these matters, it is what they do and have done it since time began!

I completely agree. Although the creation of the need is excused as commerce. Without it you can have no economic growth, so is it really loyalty? Or is it just consumerism fulfilling its accepted function? We call it success... some people get rich, some suffer and some sit down with cigars and brandy and pat each other on the back for a job well done, and as you say, the beat goes on.

The thing is I don't see A as being confused anymore. B will do as they're told, because that is their role, but that can't last forever... eventually B will question what they're being told and the media will facilitate that... if they stay true to form.

Aye they've got experience managing the tempo... but A aren't playing to any tempo are they? they are quite unpredictable... hence the shutting them down. If this goes the distance, C will have never faced numbers like this... What would happen if B is overwhelmed by A, or B decides not to defend C any more?

[oldrider]

I completely agree. Although the creation of the need is excused as commerce. Without it you can have no economic growth, so is it really loyalty? Or is it just consumerism fulfilling its accepted function? We call it success... some people get rich, some suffer and some sit down with cigars and brandy and pat each other on the back for a job well done, and as you say, the beat goes on.

The thing is I don't see A as being confused anymore. B will do as they're told, because that is their role, but that can't last forever... eventually B will question what they're being told and the media will facilitate that... if they stay true to form.

Aye they've got experience managing the tempo... but A aren't playing to any tempo are they? they are quite unpredictable... hence the shutting them down. If this goes the distance, C will have never faced numbers like this... What would happen if B is overwhelmed by A, or B decides not to defend C any more?

Clear cut really, A and B have to cosy up and kick C into oblivion!

A have begun the process, B are still a little reticent, they know something is going down but the media are well into their business of creating confusion and doubt!

The people that you refer to in your first paragraph above are not the enemy, except that they will do C's bidding without question because they have done well out of the system as it is! (I.E. John Key for instance)

[Winston001]

... but A aren't playing to any tempo are they? they are quite unpredictable... hence the shutting them down. If this goes the distance, C will have never faced numbers like this... What would happen if B is overwhelmed by A, or B decides not to defend C any more?

This describes the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution.

The French were successful but the Russians are still struggling generations after October 1917.

The odds of a true revolution in the USA are nil. Too many ordinary people own guns and will not allow activists to destroy their jobs and their lives.

That must sound quixotic given the activists have the ordinary man at their heart but economic and social upheaval threatens everyone. It won't happen.

[mashman]

Clear cut really, A and B have to cosy up and kick C into oblivion!

A have begun the process, B are still a little reticent, they know something is going down but the media are well into their business of creating confusion and doubt!

The people that you refer to in your first paragraph above are not the enemy, except that they will do C's bidding without question because they have done well out of the system as it is! (I.E. John Key for instance)

Fingers crossed eh.

I'm hoping that Occupy will get ex-B's on the front line, which should? mitigate media interference... it's not what ya know eh?

I understand that they are A and B just living their lives the best they can, given the "circumstances". As for JK (et al?), I'm still 50/50 on that, trust eh...

[mashman]

This describes the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution.

The French were successful but the Russians are still struggling generations after October 1917.

The odds of a true revolution in the USA are nil. Too many ordinary people own guns and will not allow activists to destroy their jobs and their lives.

That must sound quixotic given the activists have the ordinary man at their heart but economic and social upheaval threatens everyone. It won't happen.

Where they violent exchanges? I don't read I'm afraid.

What do you mean by true revolution?

I understand that it "can't" happen in the US, not without violent revolution (I hope I'm wrong on both counts)... and getting rid of the 1% is like getting rid of a drug dealer, as there's always others to take their place. Time for a change, and a biggun. Think globally, act locally , I'd love to

[BoristheBiter]

Where they violent exchanges? I don't read I'm afraid.

What do you mean by true revolution?

I understand that it "can't" happen in the US, not without violent revolution (I hope I'm wrong on both counts)... and getting rid of the 1% is like getting rid of a drug dealer, as there's always others to take their place. Time for a change, and a biggun. Think globally, act locally , I'd love to

That's because the whole world owes money to them.
Think globally?......... I think the world is fucked, too many have one hand out, the other in the pot, while crying they don't get enough for free.

[mashman]

That's because the whole world owes money to them.
Think globally?......... I think the world is fucked, too many have one hand out, the other in the pot, while crying they don't get enough for free.

So do it all for free Thinking Locally, which will stop the crying and hands in multiple pots issue, and if that works, what do you think would happen Globally? Less fucked world going in a more positive direction?

[BoristheBiter]

So do it all for free Thinking Locally, which will stop the crying and hands in multiple pots issue, and if that works, what do you think would happen Globally? Less fucked world going in a more positive direction?

You really no nothing about human nature do you?

[mashman]

You really no nothing about human nature do you?

What makes you say that? I'm more than happy with my views on human nature. Humans react to situations. The majority aren't threatening or a threat unless they perceive a threat. I'd say if that was true of the majority, then 99% of the people on the planet aren't threats... which would mean that you know nothing about human nature

[oldrider]

comment on world financial crisis: http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/system-failure

Don't shoot the messenger, read or read not ... your choice!

[mashman]

something along the same lines:

"Jacques Delors, former president of the European Commission , suggested "a fault in execution" meant the present crisis in the eurozone was inevitable." Open door for the NWO?

I'll say it again. Free the local NZ economy and we could save millions if not billions of lives. If I sound irrational/mad/insane, I care not, but we do have a choice.

[oldrider]

All of this is made worse by the fact that it is so preventable!