You haven't been round long then obviously. "It's him or me" " I want Bridgestones else I'll leave Moto GP" "I can't win on this bike" Sound familiar?Originally Posted by 5150
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You haven't been round long then obviously. "It's him or me" " I want Bridgestones else I'll leave Moto GP" "I can't win on this bike" Sound familiar?
Curmudgeon
So did Capirossi.Didn't say he could Oscar. What I said was..."He's done something Rossi hasn't and never will"
Win races on the Ducati.
And winning a championship on the Duc is a fantastic achievement for Stoner, but it don't make him a GOAT, do it?
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Not many though. And that makes Rossi look better how? And by the way...Rossi ain't the GOAT. Sure bugs you Stoner winning more races head to head than your boy dunnit?
Motherfucker Of The Year !!!
As far as a Ducati in it's current state goes. Any racer of Rossi caliber would only try so much. But if you and the factory are throwing everything at the damn thing and not seeing any reasonable results, then one can't blame the guy for wanting to move on to a team with a better bike.
I've spent my money on bikes, booze and babes. The rest I've wasted....
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Don't blame him at all. Pointless trying to race that pile of shit! But he's bitched and moaned more about the Ducati more than Stoner ever did!
Curmudgeon
He ain't "my boy".
He is, however, the best thing to happen to Motorcycle Racing for many a year.
And if Rossi isn't the GOAT, who is? He is certainly one of the greatest of all time.
BTW - It doesn't bug me that Stoner has beaten Rossi on a head to head basis any more than the fact that Sheene won more races than Ago head to head. In hindsight, the better rider is obvious, no?
Ducatisti
On a Ducati! not the same bike though was it!Didn't say he could Oscar. What I said was..."He's done something Rossi hasn't and never will"
Win races on the Ducati.
History will remember Stoner for sure, in his prime he beat an older slower Rossi.
But Rossi is still the greater talent, having endured a longer more decorated career on all sizes/types of machinery!
Viva La Figa
Curmudgeon
Yeah, about as much as Stoner moaning about his tyres...
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My point exactly. They all do it.
Ducatisti
I think you'll find Stoner did plenty of moaning, but being the whiner he is, nobody including Ducati or the media cared enough to make it public
Viva La Figa
Curmudgeon
Plus, earlier this year Stoner was blaming Dorna for changes to MotoGP rules that his own employers (Honda) forced through on the threat of taking their toys and going home.I think you'll find Stoner did plenty of moaning, but being the whiner he is, nobody including Ducati or the media cared enough to make it public
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Seeing as you like stats so much, Ago is in road racing. Ricky Carmichael is the REAL GOAT.
And it obviously does...else you wouldn't keep mentioning Rossi's nine titles, which has nothing at all to do with Stoner handing his arse to him on a plate does it now?
I understand now why the Rossi fans are generally Stoner haters. The Stoner haters also moan about Stoner as much as Stoner himself moans. Funny really.
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Ah no. Wasn't Honda that made them add 4kgs to the bike at the last minute. Nor did Honda suddenly make the tyres that worked on it no longer avail to them.
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Of all the bitching and moaning he's done over the years...I can't recall him doing too much about the bike.I think you'll find Stoner did plenty of moaning, but being the whiner he is, nobody including Ducati or the media cared enough to make it public
Tearing Choppa a new A'Hole
Correct. Some unimaginative, European journalist copied the term and named Rossi The GOAT long after Carmichael was attributed with the nickname.
It fucken annoys the shit outta me for some reason.
Vote David Bain for MNZ president
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