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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    I don't like rules that limit the number of engines/tyres or anything else, but without them things can get very silly. An engine for practices, and engine for qualifying and one for the race etc is not sustainable and doesn't attract the small guys that fill up the grid.
    Yeah but the work that goes into making the engines last as long as they do probably costs more in the long run.

    You seen how many engines Biaggi's Aprilia team goes through in a season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    Must be doing some homework on how to ride the Duc like those other dirt/flat trackers Stoner and Hayden.
    You reckon he'll try and beat Stoners 40 odd national flattrack titles mate?







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    On his own ranch maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    On his own ranch maybe...
    When I win Big Wed tonight...I'm gonna buy me a big fuck off farm and build a flattrack. I'll then buy 20 RMZ 450's and run a class for aspiring road racers.

    Now to get a ticket...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    I don't like rules that limit the number of engines/tyres or anything else, but without them things can get very silly. An engine for practices, and engine for qualifying and one for the race etc is not sustainable and doesn't attract the small guys that fill up the grid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Yeah but the work that goes into making the engines last as long as they do probably costs more in the long run.
    The way I see it, arguing that the limited number of engines per rider (is it per rider or per team?) per season would help reduce costs is BS. The money saved by the overall number of engines produced would dissappear very quickly when you start looking into all the R&D the teams would have to put in to make the engines last as long as they do. I feel a much more legitimate argument would be that the R&D that goes into making the engine last longer would result in a direct trickle down to the technology used in the consumer market. (Granted, a few years down the line from present prototype.) That gives some legitimacy for the argument that prototype racing is a useful tool for technological advancement in the consumer sector (for those who need that argument because they don't see the benifit of watching aliens ride around a track in spectacular fashion).

    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    You seen how many engines Biaggi's Aprilia team goes through in a season?
    Didn't they go through like 20 some engines for his 2010 championship season?
    Disclaimer: I don't actually know what I'm talking about and everything I say should be taken as words of wisdom from a armchair general/mechanic/engineer/racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    Must be doing some homework on how to ride the Duc like those other dirt/flat trackers Stoner and Hayden.
    That pic looks like one of the two that Alex Briggs posted on Twitter. The bike looks really nice in the other photo. My copyright breaching skills aren't up to much as I couldn't save the pic from Twitter to my desktop.
    There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop

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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    The way I see it, arguing that the limited number of engines per rider (is it per rider or per team?) per season would help reduce costs is BS. The money saved by the overall number of engines produced would dissappear very quickly when you start looking into all the R&D the teams would have to put in to make the engines last as long as they do. I feel a much more legitimate argument would be that the R&D that goes into making the engine last longer would result in a direct trickle down to the technology used in the consumer market. (Granted, a few years down the line from present prototype.) That gives some legitimacy for the argument that prototype racing is a useful tool for technological advancement in the consumer sector (for those who need that argument because they don't see the benifit of watching aliens ride around a track in spectacular fashion).



    Didn't they go through like 20 some engines for his 2010 championship season?
    Totally agree mate.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That pic looks like one of the two that Alex Briggs posted on Twitter. The bike looks really nice in the other photo. My copyright breaching skills aren't up to much as I couldn't save the pic from Twitter to my desktop.
    Yummy...we must find pictures!

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    I'll fuckin say it since I seem to have missed anyone else doing it. GO PEDRO!!!

    That lil midget is the man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That pic looks like one of the two that Alex Briggs posted on Twitter. The bike looks really nice in the other photo. ...
    Alex Briggs’ Twitter photos of the XR750 here and here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    When I win Big Wed tonight...I'm gonna buy me a big fuck off farm and build a flattrack. I'll then buy 20 RMZ 450's and run a class for aspiring road racers. ...
    Put me down for a few (hundred) lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I'll fuckin say it since I seem to have missed anyone else doing it. GO PEDRO!!!

    That lil midget is the man!
    He's having the season he's always been threatening I reckon. Good to see. No fun in having one guy fuck off out the front points wise eh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    Put me down for a few (hundred) lessons.
    Turn left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Turn left.
    So then its just like Nascar..........right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    So then its just like Nascar..........right?
    I reckon Nascar would be ok if they were on the lockstops every lap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    I reckon if Lorenzo loses the championship because he had to start from pit lane that rule will be reviewed. It certainly should be. Changed to crash damage when caused by another rider. So if you tip over and stick it in the sand pit and lose an engine that's your tough luck, but if you go down as part of someone else's accident and lose an engine you get a new one.
    yeah I see the pros and cons of the rule. the part you mention about losing an engine because of someone else, vs your own mistake, well seems you've been punished for pushing it to the edge?

    Id like to see them do something like 6 engines, but you can add another engine at the cost of say, 5 championship points. that would force the teams to think really carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    Id like to see them do something like 6 engines, but you can add another engine at the cost of say, 5 championship points. that would force the teams to think really carefully.
    Not a bad take on it! Maybe more points though.

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