MotoGP 2012

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's an interesting thought. The last time Ben Spies jumped on an under developed, unproven machine and raced it, he won a world championship. Convincingly too.

No secret I'm a big Spies fan and I hope like fuck he can do what Stoner did on the Ducati.

Be great to see Spies do it...but it would seem his confidence is at an all time low...and I doubt the Ducati will help that. Bet the Italians tell his Momma to go fuck herself before too long as well.

[tail_end_charlie]

Be great to see Spies do it...but it would seem his confidence is at an all time low...and I doubt the Ducati will help that. Bet the Italians tell his Momma to go fuck herself before too long as well.

His confidence may be very low right now, but at least he knows that he is going into a whole new team (how much of his old team is coming with him?) on a whole new bike. Not only that, it really wouldn't take much of a season in 2013 to do better than this year, so he has a lot of room to show improvement. Plus I would wager that most everyone, no matter what they say, don't really expect Ducati to do much better next year, so there is a pretty low expectation for all the riders. To me those all sound like positive points, the only negative being that he's going to be on a Ducati, so ............ yeah ...........................

[White trash]

Ben is all corner speed and lean angle but the Ducati is upright and straight line speed at the moment.

But is he? Spies' comments since day one in MotoGp have been that he finds it difficult to come to terms with the sheer amount of side grip the tyres have and that he finds it easier after 2/3 race distance when everyone's lost a little grip. Hardly words by someone who's big on corner speed and lean angle, you'd think he'd be going "Yahoo, this is me!"

[denill]

Here's an interesting thought. The last time Ben Spies jumped on an under developed, unproven machine and raced it, he won a world championship. Convincingly too.

No secret I'm a big Spies fan and I hope like fuck he can do what Stoner did on the Ducati.

Yeah, I'm not into the hero worshiping thing, but Spies is the guy who I would most like to see succeed in 2013 - now that CS is gone.

[tail_end_charlie]

Yeah, I'm not into the hero worshiping thing, but Spies is the guy who I would most like to see succeed in 2013 - now that CS is gone.

^^^ Ain't that the truth.

[Crasherfromwayback]

- now that CS is gone.

Yeah I'm gonna have to find myself a new BF.

[denill]

Yeah I'm gonna have to find myself a new BF.

In 2013 no one can take the piss outa ya for your CS "relationship", lol

Guess they will find something else OK.

[Crasherfromwayback]

In 2013 no one can take the piss outa ya for your CS "relationship", lol

Guess they will find something else OK.

I'll simply admire whoever is the fastest cat out there at the time! All systems normal.

[Drew]

Goooo pedro!!!

[BMWST?]

1	9	Danilo PETRUCCI	ITA	Came IodaRacing Project	Ioda-Suter	252.0	1'43.178
2	51	Michele PIRRO	ITA	San Carlo Honda Gresini	FTR	261.5	1'43.327	0.149 / 0.149
3	77	James ELLISON	GBR	Paul Bird Motorsport	ART	259.2	1'45.730	2.552 / 2.403
4	44	David SALOM	SPA	Avintia Blusens	BQR	257.4	1'46.886	3.708 / 1.156
5	11	Ben SPIES	USA	Yamaha Factory Racing	Yamaha	265.6	1'48.298	5.120 / 1.412
6	69	Nicky HAYDEN	USA	Ducati Team	Ducati	263.8	1'48.409	5.231 / 0.111
7	68	Yonny HERNANDEZ	COL	Avintia Blusens	BQR	254.6	1'48.553	5.375 / 0.144
	54	Mattia PASINI	ITA	Speed Master	ART	258.7	1'50.482	7.304 / 1.929
	5	Colin EDWARDS	USA	NGM Mobile Forward Racing	Suter	250.3	1'53.064	9.886 / 2.582

no one else went out

[BMWST?]

1	17	Karel ABRAHAM	CZE	Cardion AB Motoracing	Ducati	273.6	1'42.030
2	77	James ELLISON	GBR	Paul Bird Motorsport	ART	258.9	1'43.204	1.174 / 1.174
3	51	Michele PIRRO	ITA	San Carlo Honda Gresini	FTR	257.5	1'44.299	2.269 / 1.095
4	68	Yonny HERNANDEZ	COL	Avintia Blusens	BQR	261.6	1'44.565	2.535 / 0.266
5	56	Jonathan REA	GBR	Repsol Honda Team	Honda	275.6	1'44.999	2.969 / 0.434
6	9	Danilo PETRUCCI	ITA	Came IodaRacing Project	Ioda-Suter	250.6	1'45.048	3.018 / 0.049
7	44	David SALOM	SPA	Avintia Blusens	BQR	259.3	1'46.351	4.321 / 1.303
8	11	Ben SPIES	USA	Yamaha Factory Racing	Yamaha	266.5	1'46.471	4.441 / 0.120
	14	Randy DE PUNIET	FRA	Power Electronics Aspar	ART	255.5	1'50.103	8.073 / 3.632
	54	Mattia PASINI	ITA	Speed Master	ART	252.4	1'50.641	8.611 / 0.538
	19	Alvaro BAUTISTA	SPA	San Carlo Honda Gresini	Honda	268.7	1'50.977	8.947 / 0.336

no one else went out in FP2must be pretty sketchy conditions

[denill]

Be great to see Spies do it...but it would seem his confidence is at an all time low...

Dennis Noyes writes about Spies' conundrum: "But in MotoGP I know I haven't got the most out of what I can do. "That is what I had to think a lot about it, and I don't want regrets in five years knowing that I left something out and didn't reach my full potential."

[Crasherfromwayback]

"But in MotoGP I know I haven't got the most out of what I can do. "That is what I had to think a lot about it, and I don't want regrets in five years knowing that I left something out and didn't reach my full potential."

I believe it.

[DidJit]

Also, weather takes centre stage and Preziosi speaks.

[denill]

Also, weather takes centre stage and Preziosi speaks.

Prezioso was a good read.

Hayden says it like it is: Nicky Hayden, when asked for advice for the riders joining Ducati for next year. "Forget about trying to adapt the bike to suit you", Hayden said, "you have to learn to adapt your style to the bike".