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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve View Post
    For those (idiots) who say Lorenzo is boring.
    Read this. The thoughts on Lorenzo by Matt Oxley. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ra...ol-as-it-gets/
    Great article.

    Mind you, I can see how many people find the calm, smooth Lorenzo boring. Not me.

    I remember Lorenzo in early 2008 very well. 3 poles and 3 podiums (a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd) in his first 3 races. And then a succession of dreadful high-sides that seemed to come out of nowhere. He didn't slow down after the first, but they eventually started to take their toll.

    It seems to me that several times in his career he has taken stock, worked out where he's going wrong, and re-invented himself. I admire him for that. Cold and calculating? Whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve View Post
    For those (idiots) who say Lorenzo is boring.
    Read this. The thoughts on Lorenzo by Matt Oxley. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ra...ol-as-it-gets/
    I couldn't agree more. Whilst I prefer watching the axe murderer in action, I've always been in awe of Lorenzo's ability and smoothness. At PI this year, he was inch perfect lap after lap. As he always is.

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    People used to talk about Pedrosa being robot-like, but Lorenzo is “el Metrónomo Humano” with his lap times.

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    From the article: "...so perfect that he’s like a metronome."

    Now I admit, Jorge is crazy good at what he does, did it better than anyone else in the world this season in fact, but the comparison to a metronome sorta says it all. Sure as hell I can appreciate the skill with which he plies that Yamaha around the track on inch perfect lines at tenths of a second lap difference for 20 odd laps. The skill and concentration required to do that is incredible....

    But, from an entertainment pov, I don't watch MotoGP because I have a thing for metronomes. They are not as exciting to watch go around a track as, oh say, an axe murderer....
    Disclaimer: I don't actually know what I'm talking about and everything I say should be taken as words of wisdom from a armchair general/mechanic/engineer/racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    Too true, I have little interest in Moto2 as I can't relate to the bikes.
    maybe if you owned a CBR600RR?
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    Moto2 to me is very much about the riders and, to a lesser degree, the teams. Like you say, they've all got the Honda lump shrouded in whichever chassis du jour, so it is about which team can set up the bike the best for the rider they've got at the track they're at. Seeing Pol Espargaró deliver a Stoner-like master class over the weekend was brilliant! Equally, watching Ant West battle his way up to 2nd was also great to watch (huge entertainment factor there from the Aussie doing good at his local race).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    , watching Ant West battle his way up to 2nd was also great to watch (huge entertainment factor there from the Aussie doing good at his local race).
    Oh dear...

    http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/...stfailsfim.htm

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    Sucks, eh. The illegal substance is classed as a stimulant (rather than performance enhancing), is found in weight loss products and nasal decongestants, and often not listed on the list of ingredients (due to the minute quantities involved apparently). Shows how careful professional athletes have to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    Sucks, eh. The illegal substance is classed as a stimulant (rather than performance enhancing), is found in weight loss products and nasal decongestants, and often not listed on the list of ingredients (due to the minute quantities involved apparently). Shows how careful professional athletes have to be.
    Aye. Like Haga years ago.

    I found this article funny. Not that much diff from my view of Stoner.



    http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/...ssixstoner.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by superbike Planet
    His rivals had no alternative but to, as the popular gaming phrase goes, "suck it". Teammate Dani Pedrosa could only watch Stoner pull away from him, even though they were on the same motorcycles.
    I liked that a lot.
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    This seeems pretty fair and nice to me...

    Casey Stoner
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    "It was very important for me to win a race before the end of the season and I'm really happy to do it here, at home, in front of the huge crowd. My biggest worry was to be fit again and competitive for this race, but we managed it and we had something over everyone else and this was the perfect way to say goodbye here. I was pretty nervous going into the race but the conditions were fantastic for a Phillip Island race! When I knew I only had a few laps left and a big lead, I was watching the crowd and it was fantastic to see everyone cheering me on, it made me very proud to be Australian.

    My biggest congratulations to Jorge [Lorenzo], he's ridden an almost perfect season finishing 1st or 2nd when possible and I'm just disappointed not to be in the championship fight, but I made my own mistakes and this is how things go. My condolences to Dani [Pedrosa)--I saw him crash out in front of me--but he had to push today and go out and win the race to keep his championship hopes alive. It was a small mistake, easy to do in this corner and I feel very sorry for him. Thanks to everyone for coming down and showing their support!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    This seeems pretty fair and nice to me...

    Casey Stoner
    1st - 41:01.324

    "It was very important for me to win a race before the end of the season and I'm really happy to do it here, at home, in front of the huge crowd. My biggest worry was to be fit again and competitive for this race, but we managed it and we had something over everyone else and this was the perfect way to say goodbye here. I was pretty nervous going into the race but the conditions were fantastic for a Phillip Island race! When I knew I only had a few laps left and a big lead, I was watching the crowd and it was fantastic to see everyone cheering me on, it made me very proud to be Australian.

    My biggest congratulations to Jorge [Lorenzo], he's ridden an almost perfect season finishing 1st or 2nd when possible and I'm just disappointed not to be in the championship fight, but I made my own mistakes and this is how things go. My condolences to Dani [Pedrosa)--I saw him crash out in front of me--but he had to push today and go out and win the race to keep his championship hopes alive. It was a small mistake, easy to do in this corner and I feel very sorry for him. Thanks to everyone for coming down and showing their support!".
    Sounds like a genuine humble type of dude to me, admits his own faults but not scared to be honest either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIXONE View Post
    Well preseved in alcohol too....
    you saw through my cunning disguise!!

    still sort of made sense ,

    you know I think there is even a video of them giving a motogp bike to a " average guy " woman I think? and they recorded the telemetry

    wish I could find it ,,!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    maybe if you owned a CBR600RR?
    Then I'd want them called a Honda not a Suter or whatever.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Aye. Like Haga years ago.

    I found this article funny. Not that much diff from my view of Stoner.



    http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/...ssixstoner.htm
    Indeed. Stoner really was something else at PI. Can't wait for footage of just him for the entire race. I would watch that enrthralled and then hit rewind and watch it again.
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