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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    Yeah I see he let it drop to about 5,000 on one corner and it pulled out no sweat and and he was peaking it up about 11,000.

    The missed shift showed he had no fancy Honda type seamless shift back then.
    Think the thing actually jumped out of gear a couple of times?

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    Barbera was on the GP 0 - the end of last year's first alloy framebike. He did his usual latch on to a faster guy and do one fast lap. His race pace or lap average was slower than Rossi. Rossi was working on set up - not a fast lap (still he was pissed off).
    The Honda's are doing fast laps for sure - especially Stoner - but as of yet the new more powerful Hondas with the new 2012 softer Bridgestones have not done a long race pace simulation. The Yamaha's have and this has HRC's Nakamoto worried. Especially Lorenzo's effort. All are saying that tyre wear will be an issue this year. We may get the wonderful scenario of guys going fast at the start and then having tyres go off and guys start slower and move thru the field at the later stages of the race. The yardstick for all this Honda v Yamaha is of course Dovizioso. From HRC to Yamaha and going fast quickly on them. The 2012 season is not done and dusted just yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve View Post
    Barbera was on the GP 0 - the end of last year's first alloy framebike. He did his usual latch on to a faster guy and do one fast lap. His race pace or lap average was slower than Rossi. Rossi was working on set up - not a fast lap (still he was pissed off).
    The Honda's are doing fast laps for sure - especially Stoner - but as of yet the new more powerful Hondas with the new 2012 softer Bridgestones have not done a long race pace simulation. The Yamaha's have and this has HRC's Nakamoto worried. Especially Lorenzo's effort. All are saying that tyre wear will be an issue this year. We may get the wonderful scenario of guys going fast at the start and then having tyres go off and guys start slower and move thru the field at the later stages of the race. The yardstick for all this Honda v Yamaha is of course Dovizioso. From HRC to Yamaha and going fast quickly on them. The 2012 season is not done and dusted just yet...
    Yeah, were HRC only doing short runs because they were worried about and engine 'issue'? And for sure worn tyres will make things interesting I reckon. Spies is good on them, as is of course Rossi. Stoner will be, and Dovi is looking good for sure. Bring it on I say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Yeah, were HRC only doing short runs because they were worried about and engine 'issue'? And for sure worn tyres will make things interesting I reckon. Spies is good on them, as is of course Rossi. Stoner will be, and Dovi is looking good for sure. Bring it on I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
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    Bike porn for us that can't wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
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    Tricky bit of plumbing, I assume we are looking at exhaust gas analysers ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wharfy View Post
    Tricky bit of plumbing, I assume we are looking at exhaust gas analysers ?
    My bet is iconel headers, titanium mid pipe and oxygen sensors.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wharfy View Post
    Tricky bit of plumbing, I assume we are looking at exhaust gas analysers ?
    We used to run Exhaust gas temperature sensors on our Karts like that. Set about 200mm from the head on a smoker.
    After you blew an engine or two or advanced timing to far and melted the front of a piston you knew what temp to tune for or compression was reliable
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    Some CRT number crunching thus far...

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    Some teams may be starting the season a bit underdone. The Sepang test lost a lot of time to rain and Honda lost another day while they awaited the result of an engine postmortem.

    Currently CRT bikes are testing at Aragon, except that day one was lost due to strong winds. The main problem with the wind being that it was cold enough so that the tyres could not maintain a safe operating temperature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Some teams may be starting the season a bit underdone. The Sepang test lost a lot of time to rain and Honda lost another day while they awaited the result of an engine postmortem.

    Currently CRT bikes are testing at Aragon, except that day one was lost due to strong winds. The main problem with the wind being that it was cold enough so that the tyres could not maintain a safe operating temperature.

    yep ambient and track temps very low

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    I guess that answers the question, "Why do they test at Sepang?"

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    Ducati GP12 launch as covered by David Emmett.

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    This years M1 looks great with more white on it I reckon...


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    The nice thing about a MotoGP bike is it looks so like an ordinary sportsbike you could ride on the street. You can't say the same about an F1 car, it looks nothing like and ordinary sportscar.

    Crasher I remember the fleeting moment when WMCC was a Yamaha dealer - I even looked at buying one at the time. Mind you I could say the same about Triumph.
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