MotoGP 2012

[rachprice]

I actually really love both Lorenzo and Stoner for the above mentioned
Each of them do their contrasted styles so well and both are poetry in motion

[Wingnut]

The intelligent Dennis Noyes and his take on Rossi and Ducati http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...id-red-said/P1

Thanks for that link mate. Sure is an interesting read. Ducati must be kicking themselves for letting Stoner go.

I am sure Rossi could round up sponsorship/funding/team support to run his own team - may be little other options for him in Moto GP - surely he must have pissed off Yamaha and Honda in the past?

[Crasherfromwayback]

NO, NO NO. Jorges classic and smooth style is poetry in motion. We are comparing here a classy Spaniard to a brash unappealing descendant of Convicts. The only good thing going for him is the suspension he uses!

By the way...I'm a huge fan of Lorenzo's! But...classy Spaniard? Didn't he used to have HUGE tanty's and throw things around and curse and swear at all and sundry? He's been sited for dangerous riding too I believe? That's yet to happen to Stoner.

[trustme]

So classy he kept falling off in the wet until he got sent to a ranch in Modesto where a fat balding old man served him his arse on a plate. Just kidding

[pritch]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mattrober...substance.html

[pritch]

This from Marco Melandri. OK, I know he's in SBK these days but he did win multiple GPs on a satellite bike, and he does post in English as well as Italian, which makes him a gent, so...

"Hi"

"Hi"

"Want some?"

"What?"

"Drugs."

"No thanks"

"Why not?"

"I've got a motorbike."

[nudemetalz]

Where Rossi may be heading sooner than we think for good maybe ??

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2012/r...a+gran+turismo

[slowpoke]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Apr/120413-1046.htm

KRjr's timing comments re Rossi could equally be applied to Stoner. He climbed onto the Duc at the perfect time with a good bike (proven by Capirossi and Bayliss) and a tyre advantage with the Bridgestones. Then jumped off the Ducati pendulum going backwards onto the Honda pendulum swinging forwards. Timing is everything and Stoner has done brilliantly picking his rides.

. The Duke is an enigma to everyone but a certain Honda rider.

Everyone keeps writing about Stoner as though he could jump on the Duc and win the championship...it's just not the case. 2010 in his last season on it he had 5 DNF's, and 4 races where he finished off the podium (3 x 5th and a 4th), to finish 4th in the championship....behind Rossi who missed 4 races with a broken leg. Stoner scored 225points to Lorenzo's 383.

Lets face it the Duc of recent times is an enigma to every bloody one, including that certain Honda rider. If Stoner was on the GP12 he'd be just as fucked as Rossi and Hayden, maybe even more so because i reckon he'd crash more often trying to flog the dead horse. After breaking himself one too many times it'd be Stoner, not Rossi, who'd be scanning saturday's paper for Situations Vacant in WSBK in 2013.

[trustme]

I'd agree that even Stoner struggled to get his head around the Duke , but so far only he has been able to be even remotely competitive on it. Could he win a championship on it, of course not , as KRjnr talked about he had to consistently over ride the bike resulting in more crashes & little chance for a title. Rossi looked at Stoners telemetry & said he would not be riding it in that extreme style, look at the results or lack of them.
The Dukes remain an enigma, I must admit I really believed Rossi & more particularly Burgess would get on top of it but apparently not.

[denill]

The Dukes remain an enigma, I must admit I really believed Rossi & more particularly Burgess would get on top of it but apparently not.

Yep. Me too!

I could have lost a lot of money on that if I was a betting man.

[BMWST?]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mattrober...substance.html

there is another guy in his team with maybe even more poetry in him

[trev]

If Stoner was on the GP12 he'd be just as fucked as Rossi and Hayden, maybe even more so .

If he was given the huge increase in support from Ducati that Rossi has received I'm not so sure Stoner would be fucked.

[Crasherfromwayback]

KRjr's timing comments re Rossi could equally be applied to Stoner. He climbed onto the Duc at the perfect time with a good bike (proven by Capirossi and Bayliss) and a tyre advantage with the Bridgestones. Then jumped off the Ducati pendulum going backwards onto the Honda pendulum swinging forwards. Timing is everything and Stoner has done brilliantly picking his rides.

The 1000cc Ducati was no doubt quite different to the 800cc Stoner first rode. And who says the Bridgestones were the superior tyre?

Stoner would more than likely have four or more titles had he been on either the Yamaha or the Honda the whole time. It obviously pains a lot of people...but he's the fastest guy in the world on a motorycle right now. Has been for a while.

[rachprice]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mattrober...substance.html

Hey I didn't say he didn't ride very well.....I just think he is an arrogant douche

[Oscar]

The 1000cc Ducati was no doubt quite different to the 800cc Stoner first rode. And who says the Bridgestones were the superior tyre?

Stoner would more than likely have four or more titles had he been on either the Yamaha or the Honda the whole time. It obviously pains a lot of people...but he's the fastest guy in the world on a motorycle right now. Has been for a while.

The fastest guy in the world?
One of the fastest, maybe.
The best rider on sub-standard machinery, definitely.
Also I don't think "..the fastest guy in the world.." would be so underdone as to suffer from arm pump.

There are several guys out there, including Dani & George, and maybe even Marc, who may be as fast or faster.
Until there's a race where fully fit riders race on identical machines, we'll never know.