MotoGP 2012

[puddytat]

Apart from the drama, there aint much to really say about the race....whereas Moto2/Moto3

[Crasherfromwayback]

Because neither ride Yamahas!

And I truly think that the Yamaha is the best bike out there this year. Doesn't take anything away from Lorenzo's season. He's riding it better than anyone else. The difference between the bikes may make 5 or 10 %. The rider makes all the difference. So far this season, Lorenzo has been the class act by a fair way. The tyres may not suit the Honda, but so what. It's up to Stoner and Pedrosa to get the thing sorted for what they have avail to them. It could've easily gone the other way.

Sort it out. Make it work, or ride around it. Other than that...tough shit.

Lorenzo has set the mark, as Stoner did last year. Lorenzo was taken out, as Stoner was last year. No excuses. Back to square one.

Can't wait for the rest of the season.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Apart from the drama, there aint much to really say about the race....whereas Moto2/Moto3

It's easy to say that if you have no idea about just what those cats are trying to ride eh.

[tbs]

Any thoughts on Cortese's riding into the side of his team-mate? It didn't look like a mistake to me. Just too much aggression. I would have thought that would earn him a talking to.

[puddytat]

It's easy to say that if you have no idea about just what those cats are trying to ride eh.

Oh I think Ive a pretty good idea of what they're trying to ride (been listening to experts on here since ages ago), but unless they have more elbow to elbow racing like the other classes then it gets a tad predictable & has been for years....whereas watching those crazy youngsters going hard out lap after lap with pass after pass & with hardly any crashing is IMO more entertaining.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh I think Ive a pretty good idea of what they're trying to ride (been listening to experts on here since ages ago), but unless they have more elbow to elbow racing like the other classes then it gets a tad predictable & has been for years....whereas watching those crazy youngsters going hard out lap after lap with pass after pass & with hardly any crashing is IMO more entertaining.

The thing is mate...it's one thing riding into some other gormless cunt on a wanked up 250 moto cross engined 250 (moto 3), but doing so on a 250hp projectile is another. That's why I think you're missing the point. If you want some REAL elbow action...go and watch a 125cc moto-x race. They actually run each other over.

[pritch]

Spoken like a true Rossi fan.

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Try watching with both eyes open

[Crasherfromwayback]

Try watching with both eyes open

Pot-Kettle.

If you can honestly say Bautista's fuck up was any worse than Rossi's I'll lick your balls. If not...come and lick mine.

[slowpoke]

Pot-Kettle.

If you can honestly say Bautista's fuck up was any worse than Rossi's I'll lick your balls. If not...come and lick mine.

So you honestly think racing for position on a wet track mid-race is the same as a desperate lunge up the inside into the very first turn on a dry track? Jerez was a crash fest in tricky conditions and Simoncelli crashed in exactly the same spot/way as Rossi so it's not like Rossi did something totally unhinged. Stoner and Rossi were actually into the corner, part way 'round, while Bautista was still on the farkin' straight....even Lorenzo had only just started tipping in and he was a fair way up the track from Bautista.

So yes, completely different when viewed objectively.

Edit: Stoner has to now be the odds on favourite for the title. Lorenzo is riding like a man possessed, albeit a cold clinical man (with the helmet on, different when it comes off), but it's only the Honda chatter problem keeping him in with a chance. Honda will cure the chatter, Lorenzo lost a brand new engine when skittled so will have to start from pit lane at some stage, Stoner does better at the tracks in the second half of the season, so Honda/Stoner are in the box seat.

Edit 2: Bridgestone need to get their shit together with the tyres. Wearing is one thing, but falling apart mid race is something else and not acceptable.

[jasonu]

The thing is mate...it's one thing riding into some other gormless cunt on a wanked up 250 moto cross engined 250 (moto 3), but doing so on a 250hp projectile is another. That's why I think you're missing the point. If you want some REAL elbow action...go and watch a Formula 1 race. They actually run each other over.

Fixed it for ya.
The F1 powers to be have finally struck up a winning package. 7 different winners driving 4(or5) different makes in 8 races. Plus I can't remember the last time some ball licking was offered on the F1 forum I look at.
The motogp folks should take note. I love the technology of the bikes but the raceing is (IMO) dull and mostly predictable.

[Drew]

It's funny watching the comments, biased by rider preference. I don't know what was going through Bautista's head, but given his bike and team, he likely knows the only tv time he'll see is in the opening stages before he can no longer keep a front running pace.

The punishment doesn't fit the crime in my opinion, but there's no point arguing it. Whoever said the Rossi/Stoner incident was mid turn needs to look that shot up though. They were still in a straight line when Rossi went down.

This all plays into Pedrosa having a better chance, and I really believe he deserves a title.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So you honestly think racing for position on a wet track mid-race is the same as a desperate lunge up the inside into the very first turn on a dry track? Jerez was a crash fest in tricky conditions and Simoncelli crashed in exactly the same spot/way as Rossi so it's not like Rossi did something totally unhinged. .

Sorry Spud, Rossi did exactly the same thing in my opinion. Doesn't make any diff wether it's the first corner or the last in my eyes. It was an amateur fuckup by both of them, end of story. Simmo lost it powering up, not going in too from memory.

It's funny watching the comments, biased by rider preference..

Mine ain't about rider perference. I'm a fan of Rossi and Bautista.

[eelracing]

Sorry Spud, Rossi did exactly the same thing in my opinion. Doesn't make any diff wether it's the first corner or the last in my eyes.

Like fuck he did the exact same thing,Rossi was storming up through the field at the time and came across Stoner parking it in the corner like your grandma on a sunday excursion.The day a racer does'nt go for the gap is the day they should retire.

Bautista however was an out of control lunatic and if I remember correctly the GP commission has warned riders that any first corner antics will be dealt with severely since that massive pile-up involving Gibernau and Capirossi and others a few years back.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Like fuck he did the exact same thing,Rossi was storming up through the field at the time .

lol. Que dramatic music. Hate to tell ya, but they simply BOTH lost control of the bikes they were riding taking out innocent parties. Riding BEYOND their abilities at the time.

[slowpoke]

Whoever said the Rossi/Stoner incident was mid turn needs to look that shot up though. They were still in a straight line when Rossi went down.

This all plays into Pedrosa having a better chance, and I really believe he deserves a title.

The pic shows they are into the corner, with Rossi in front as he loses it. Nothing like Bautista losing it with no lean angle, 15m behind Lorenzo.

But yeah, I reckon Pedrosa deserves some reward for being there or there abouts for quite a few years, so wouldn't be upset if he nabbed it.