CRM80 build?

[Kendog]

so there are more than one

More than one GP winner?

[koba]

I reckon it might take you longer than you think to earn that one, there's a bit more competition for the top spot in Buckets than Superbikes

Any casual reader would probably think you are being sarcastic.

The competition and relative pace are actually much, much higher from what I see...

[TZ350]

Im not sure if I should rebuild the bottom end with new rod and bearings etc? I dont like spending money so if its going fine now and theres not too much play in the rod ill prob leave it but it is a very old engine 1990 so its prob due....

Good to see another Bucketeer taking the long road and building his own. And yes you need to do a complete reco/prep job, F4 is real racing and you need to spend a little now and do the basics well to be a reliable runner, like a real racer would. Just my 2 cents worth.

[CHOPPA]

I can appreciate that the competition and aggression in the F4 class is right up and that is exactly why I want to race it so I can stay sharp.

The reason why the racing is like this is because its easier for most riders to ride a small, slow bike to its limits.

I think if any of you were capable of getting anywhere near the front of a superbike, pro mx or sx race you would be surprised how aggressive you have to be to make a pass. Like any class though you have to earn respect with your competition plus we are going 3x as fast so you have to use your brain.

If im not happy about a pass ill just take you out then next time you will think twice

[Kickaha]

If im not happy about a pass ill just take you out then next time you will think twice

Good luck with that, let me know how you get on

[F5 Dave]

Good to see another Bucketeer taking the long road and building his own. And yes you need to do a complete reco/prep job, F4 is real racing and you need to spend a little now and do the basics well to be a reliable runner, like a real racer would. Just my 2 cents worth.

meh F5 racing is where its all at. None of those must have the biggest bike ego trips. Need all that large bore power to haul your lardy arses about? (my lardy arse goes fastest down the hill bits)

[CHOPPA]

Good luck with that, let me know how you get on

That was letting you know how I have got on....

[TZ350]

The reason why the racing is like this is because its easier for most riders to ride a small, slow bike to its limits....

The cost to ones body of a mistake racing a Bucket is probably going to be a lot less than a good off from a Super-bike that,s for sure, and one of the great attractions for me. Riding at 10/10ths, easier, maybe, less dangerous for sure, and so your right I can afford to try a bit harder.

But it still seems to take way more talent than mine to consistently ride a Bucket to its limit. Sure I can skid around a corner or two but to string it all together corner after corner, and to cleanly take the overtaking opportunities before they appear well, being good, its not going to be so easy that you will be bored.

[CHOPPA]

The cost to ones body of a mistake racing a Bucket is probably going to be a lot less than a good off from a Super-bike that,s for sure, and one of the great attractions for me. Riding at 10/10ths, easier, maybe, less dangerous for sure, and so your right I can afford to try a bit harder.

But it still seems to take way more talent than mine to consistently ride a Bucket to its limit. Sure I can skid around a corner or two but to string it all together corner after corner, and to cleanly take the overtaking opportunities before they appear well, being good, its not going to be so easy that you will be bored.

For sure mate, dont mean to take anything away from you guys at all and to be honest id be surprised if I could beat the guys that I have seen. I was just getting the feeling judging by some of the comments that some of these guys think that the level in Buckets is much higher then Superbikes which may be the case but I wouldnt agree

[Kickaha]

The cost to ones body of a mistake racing a Bucket is probably going to be a lot less than a good off from a Super-bike that,s for sure

I'm not so sure about that, I can think of just as many Bucket guys(probably more actually) with plated collar bones and numerous others with concussions, fractures , soft tissue damage etc
Small bikes still seem to bite pretty hard

I was just getting the feeling judging by some of the comments that some of these guys think that the level in Buckets is much higher then Superbikes which may be the case but I wouldn't agree

It's called "taking the piss" oh yeah welcome to the "Premier class"

[TZ350]

.... just getting the feeling judging by some of the comments that some of these guys think that the level in Buckets is much higher then Superbikes which may be the case but I wouldn't agree

Like you, I think that Buckets allows more people to approach closer to the real racing limits than they could sensibly afford to within a faster class, and my hats of to the top Superbike boys, I could never go there, I don't think many can, certainly not the average Bucket racer, but I think the top few could if they wanted too.

What I think Buckets does better than any other class, is that its much more affordable while the skill/talent required to consistently do well is much the same as the bigger classes. Certainly the depth of technical knowledge to be found in the Bucket paddock is as deep as any other class.

But the very best thing about Buckets for me and I imagine for some others is that we can get totally involved in developing our bikes/engines and riding skills or just get out for a brisk trot around the track in a way we could never afford to $$$$ wise in the faster classes.

The way I see it, Buckets is affordable and the total package of skills/talent/tec knowledge required to run at the front in F4/F5 is certainly no less than in any other class.

[CHOPPA]

It's called "taking the piss" oh yeah welcome to the "Premier class"

you know I love it! I need more of it to get me motivated to get this thing built

[TZ350]

...... I can think of just as many Bucket guys(probably more actually) with plated collar bones and numerous others with concussions, fractures , soft tissue damage etc. Small bikes still seem to bite pretty hard

Yes, agreed, collarbones are common amongst Bucket racers, Team ESE have had a few and in a close contest on a tight track more than one Bucket racer has been run over by a pursuing bike or two for a bit of general damage.

When I was riding TZ's, collarbones were thought of as slow corner injuries, like the hair pin at Pukekohe where you tended to fall on your shoulder, in the faster road race corners you tended to slide off and up the road, if you were unlucky hitting something really hard at speed. After a fast off it was either just grazes or it was serious, nothing much in-between.

[Moooools]

Stuff the smelly two stroke and get one of these made. In a 150...

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[Rick 52]

You wouldn't get me on a 200bhp man eater I'm sure you will love the buckets and do very well ..Great bunch! and like Jaded Avalon Dan Karl Glenn .....and the list go's on ' will feel the benefits of racing all year round on small bikes to keep you eye in for the big bikes !