CRM80 build?

[ajturbo]

hey Chopp... just be warned.. i have a RG50.. that i will front up on and give you the learn... so best you get as many horses as you can from you thing..

oh and watch out for my elbow as i go past ya on the outside....

[husaberg]

Viable option for MB for those wanting a water cooled head? Stroke is shorter so would you have to stroke the crank?

From what Wob Says the ultimate bucket would be a square bore and stroke 50mmx50mm 100cc or 54x54 125cc air cooled.

I would go with either a oversize Mb100 bored and stroked to get to 125cc or a debored/destroked 125cc water cooled with a PV
which is what the new build is

[Yow Ling]

http://www.treatland.tv/honda-MBX-NS...-110cc-kit.htm

CRM100? anyone

http://www.treatland.tv/honda-MBX-NS...-110cc-kit.htm

55mmx41.4mm=98cc non race parts too

This is a bit of an elephant in the room, so simply because it doesnt say "race" or "competition" on the vendors website they are legal for buckets. On another page we arguing that big end bearings are race or competion. While the rules dont explicitly say what is or isnt competition or race parts, buckets have usually been made from street bike or farmbike origons. I dont know shit from clay when it comes to the differences between a crm80 and a nsr80 other than one sounds like a motocrosss bike and the other a road bike, are they identical porting from stock , gear ratios the same. its kinda the same as the TM/TF /TS /RM thing they all look the same but some are more legal for buckets than others. Is the bucket community just ok with this CRM80 thing because its some flash Harry superbike guy going to come over to buckets and give us the learn, or maybe because they hoping he not really that serious anyway and after this thread has got to 20 pages will never be seen in the cheap seats again.

[husaberg]

This is a bit of an elephant in the room, so simply because it doesnt say "race" or "competition" on the vendors website they are legal for buckets. On another page we arguing that big end bearings are race or competion. While the rules dont explicitly say what is or isnt competition or race parts, buckets have usually been made from street bike or farmbike origons. I dont know shit from clay when it comes to the differences between a crm80 and a nsr80 other than one sounds like a motocrosss bike and the other a road bike, are they identical porting from stock , gear ratios the same. its kinda the same as the TM/TF /TS /RM thing they all look the same but some are more legal for buckets than others. Is the bucket community just ok with this CRM80 thing because its some flash Harry superbike guy going to come over to buckets and give us the learn, or maybe because they hoping he not really that serious anyway and after this thread has got to 20 pages will never be seen in the cheap seats again.

Yeah I know what you are saying pm me you email Yow and I will give you an Idea of a Shit storm of maelstrom with the rules.

Ps the motors are real different from the cr80.
They are road motors for real.the ratios and the rest are real different.

There are guys from what I can understand using the overbore kits in the Derbis too I think But I sure get where you are coming from.

[Moooools]

"Engines must be derived from non-competition motorcycles. Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and Go Kart motors and transmission parts are not permitted. There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. All engines must be normally aspirated except F4 4 stroke engines of less than 100cc capacity, which may be turbo or supercharged."

Could you please show me the part where it says "Aftermarket barrels that do not explicitly state that they are designed for street use are banned".

I think the two stroke boys get a little bit up tight when they have spent a lot of time tuning their engines, and someone comes along and can through parts together and get something that will be reasonably quick.

In my eyes Choppa is checking all the boxes:

Derived from a road engine - tick.
Two Stroke engine water cooled less than 100cc - tick.
Barrel has not come from Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and Go Kart motors. - tick.

These sorts of things are not hard to come by now. They are no more expensive than port work for a 4 stroke, and no doubt a whole lot cheaper than getting Wobbly to deal to an engine.
And is it within the spirit of bucket racing? Hell yes.

[Buddha#81:Me]

Burn Choppa at a stake, he's a cheating witch!

[jasonu]

"Engines must be derived from non-competition motorcycles. Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and Go Kart motors and transmission parts are not permitted. There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. All engines must be normally aspirated except F4 4 stroke engines of less than 100cc capacity, which may be turbo or supercharged."

Could you please show me the part where it says "Aftermarket barrels that do not explicitly state that they are designed for street use are banned".

I think the two stroke boys get a little bit up tight when they have spent a lot of time tuning their engines, and someone comes along and can through parts together and get something that will be reasonably quick.

In my eyes Choppa is checking all the boxes:

Derived from a road engine - tick.
Two Stroke engine water cooled less than 100cc - tick.
Barrel has not come from Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and Go Kart motors. - tick.

These sorts of things are not hard to come by now. They are no more expensive than port work for a 4 stroke, and no doubt a whole lot cheaper than getting Wobbly to deal to an engine.
And is it within the spirit of bucket racing? Hell yes.

Agreed 10 char

[husaberg]

Agreed 10 char

Not this again lets move on.

[Moooools]

+10char

[husaberg]

" They are no more expensive than port work for a 4 stroke, and no doubt a whole lot cheaper than getting Wobbly to deal to an engine.
.

I am getting Wob to do mine as Mick never had to tune his one either
I am not the only one either we are taking over the show.

There could be up to 25 2 stroke (Yes 25) 30HP at the rear wheel Buckets at the Battle of the Buckets next year.

I am of course also supporting the small NZ tuning industry too.
I therefor feel I should at least get a MBE or a OBE.

Racing is racing. It isn't a DIY tuner/riders cup is it.

[Buckets4Me]

Is the bucket community just ok with this CRM80 thing because its some flash Harry superbike guy going to come over to buckets and give us the learn, or maybe because they hoping he not really that serious anyway and after this thread has got to 20 pages will never be seen in the cheap seats again.

well first he has to finish it
then when he beats you you can stump up with $100 and hope they see it your way
after that you can brag that you are better than some flash harry superbike racer because he cheated
or you loose $100 + and we now have a benchmark

is a crm80 built for Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and or Go Kart's ( I have no clue so am staying out)
but I do know someone had a big winge because I wanted to use boison? reeds (so I had some made out of the same stuff they use to make rs125 reeds)

[richban]

I am getting Wob to do mine as Mick never had to tune his one either
I am not the only one either we are taking over the show.

There could be up to 25 2 stroke (Yes 25) 30HP at the rear wheel Buckets at the Battle of the Buckets next year.

I am of course also supporting the small NZ tuning industry too.
I therefor feel I should at least get a MBE or a OBE.

Racing is racing. It isn't a DIY tuner/riders cup is it.

Lets hope with all this time and effort some results come the way of the 2 stroke talkers, opps I mean tuners.innocent: I have already started on plan C to combat this disturbance in the force.

[husaberg]

Lets hope with all this time and effort some results come the way of the 2 stroke talkers, opps I mean tuners.innocent: I have already started on plan C to combat this disturbance in the force.

Hello Rich
Tell me again.
Who does your Cams?

[richban]

Hello Rich
Tell me again.
Who does your Cams?

That would be the guy / company that does most of the fast FXR work. Kelford Cams. AKA Kevin Ban Me Bro. Very handy for me yes.

[husaberg]

That would be the guy / company that does most of the fast FXR work. Kelford Cams. AKA Kevin Ban Me Bro. Very handy for me yes.

Surely not a professional tuner

Note there is a free plug there also.