AMCC Round 2 Pukekohe

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Hi all,

Round 2 entry forms are out http://www.amcc.org.nz/uploads/richa...20~%202012.pdf
Things to note,
Tim Gibbs timing will be used so consequently a small additional charge for transponders for those that don't have one is required.

Hyosung cup entries:- Bikes will be closely scrutineered any infringement from the class will not be accepted and you will not be racing. Rest assured someone who knows what they are looking at will be present

All riders:- numbers were worse than appalling on some bikes at the last round. If your numbers fail to meet MNZ regs you will fail to pass scrutineering. AMCC will have (at a cost to you, should you wish to race)) a selection of numbers and coloured backgrounds available. Should you fail scrutineering these will be available to you which will need to be applied and your bike re-scrutineered to obtain clearance.
In addition please read the regs in regard to bike preparation/presentation, simple issues such as failing to drill and wire sump plugs were spotted last time
Remember time spent in the shed saves time at the circuit.

Gates open at 7am, sign on, scrutineering, gear check in that order.

See you track side peeps

[prettybillie]

What's the spectator fee going to be this time? Gotta say that if it is going to cost the four of us that came in one car $80 like it did last round we won't be coming.

[CHOPPA]

What's the spectator fee going to be this time? Gotta say that if it is going to cost the four of us that came in one car $80 like it did last round we won't be coming.

$80!!! How much does it cost to watch Paeroa?

[nodrog:Me]

$80!!! How much does it cost to watch Paeroa?

about that ($20 each) isnt it?

[prettybillie]

Hmmmmm $20 to go watch club racing or $20 to go watch Paeroa......do they really think club racing is the same sort of spectacal as Paeroa??!!! Reality check time.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

I'm told Puke will be $10 and there will be a price review for HD too

[oyster]

It's a bit rough to dust up the Prolite /Hyosung Cup riders on the day when they can't get proper information on their rules.
1) Where are the Hyosung Cup rules as approved by MNZ as Supplementary rules and publicised clearly with the entry form?
2) The MNZ rules are unchanged since Jan 1st and reading them today it's very clear the proposed changed due for 1st Sept are not in there. How are the riders to prepare their bikes when there are only rumours of a future rule change in an unspecified time frame?

It's not fair on the riders who are penalised for sticked to the letter of MNZ rules while others are working from a vague "old boy" network.

Come on MNZ, get your act together and start by sticking to your own rules. (read the section on "making a rule change")

[CHOPPA]

Does it cost more to hire tracks if your charging a gate fee?

[Billy]

It's a bit rough to dust up the Prolite /Hyosung Cup riders on the day when they can't get proper information on their rules.
1) Where are the Hyosung Cup rules as approved by MNZ as Supplementary rules and publicised clearly with the entry form?
2) The MNZ rules are unchanged since Jan 1st and reading them today it's very clear the proposed changed due for 1st Sept are not in there. How are the riders to prepare their bikes when there are only rumours of a future rule change in an unspecified time frame?

It's not fair on the riders who are penalised for sticked to the letter of MNZ rules while others are working from a vague "old boy" network.

Come on MNZ, get your act together and start by sticking to your own rules. (read the section on "making a rule change")

Yip,Fair comment re the rules supposedly effective 1st of September,There appears to be a miscommunication between the board and the office that we are working on.Those rules are still listed under the proposed rules section.

However,The rules for the Hyosung cup are posted on the Hyosung NZ racing page and clearly dont allow the use of autotunes or the removal of metal from the sidestand bracket,These are the issues that KG is referring to and as I understand it there is to be a mail out to all competitors by the club,There are NO supp regs for this class,Its as per MNZ rulebook

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Does it cost more to hire tracks if your charging a gate fee?

No mate.

Only restrictions in track hire relate to caterers.

[oyster]

MNZ own rules under "how to change a rule" state changes are effective 1st Jan. So why are they breaking this rule by making it 1st Sept? If there's a reason then they need to change the rule change rules as well...
If the Hyosung Cup is run under Prolite rules then any eligible Prolite bike is allowed. So is this now the case that a Kawasaki can enter and win the the Hyosung Cup? I thought only Hyosungs could enter it, which would require Supp rules to define the modification to the otherwise MNZ class.

[CHOPPA]

Were those cheating bastard removing metal from a side stand bracket!!

[Mental Trousers]

Were those cheating bastard removing metal from a side stand bracket!!

They were probably doing it using the race track surface too!!

[Billy]

MNZ own rules under "how to change a rule" state changes are effective 1st Jan. So why are they breaking this rule by making it 1st Sept? If there's a reason then they need to change the rule change rules as well...
If the Hyosung Cup is run under Prolite rules then any eligible Prolite bike is allowed. So is this now the case that a Kawasaki can enter and win the the Hyosung Cup? I thought only Hyosungs could enter it, which would require Supp rules to define the modification to the otherwise MNZ class.

I think you'll find the reason those rules were made effective 1st of September is because the members asked last year for the rule changes to be made asap so they would have plenty of time to implement any changes required,As round 1 of the Nationals 2012 is on the 7th of January,Im sure even you would agree that doesnt leave much time now does it???Of course if you'd prefer we stuck to that,You can contact the Roadrace commission chairman or the board and have it enforced!!!

[Billy]

Were those cheating bastard removing metal from a side stand bracket!!

They were probably doing it using the race track surface too!!

Trivial as it may seem there's a second a lap to be gained at HD and probably any other track in the country by removing enough metal from the sidestand bracket on the Hyosung,The rules was made for a reason and will be enforced to the word.