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[underpowered80]

The ar80 motor is what we use .You are not allowed to run KX80 /100 .as its moto cross.if you go to KAWASAKI AR80 1999 PICTURES.It will show the different models.Hope this helps .I was just offering support for the use of moto cross motors as the power of the new four strokes by far exceeds what we run.Ifyou feel i was missleading then for this i am sorry.

ROBIN

[CHOPPA]

The ar80 motor is what we use .You are not allowed to run KX80 /100 .as its moto cross.if you go to KAWASAKI AR80 1999 PICTURES.It will show the different models.Hope this helps .I was just offering support for the use of moto cross motors as the power of the new four strokes by far exceeds what we run.Ifyou feel i was missleading then for this i am sorry.

ROBIN

I have checked out every model of the AR80 and checked out all the possible information that I can find the engine you are talking about, I can find a 8hp 80cc water cooled 2 stroke 6 speed but nothing even close to the engine your running.

Could you post a picture of the engine your using?

[gav]

Maybe you could post the engine number off the build plate too, that may help things?

[underpowered80]

all that is on our motor is ar80 82 cc it has a after market barrel 82cc and different head .the porting made all the difference and pipe also helped .we purchased our motor from aust.it was used in a bucket over their.sorry i cant be any more help .just try and find one that can be improved on . ROBIN

[underpowered80]

sorry i cant be of any more help. all iknow is our motor is an ar80 sorry you people cant find out more about it .now as far as i am concerned this correspondence is finnished.i have better things to do with my time .all i wanted to do was support a change in the rules not face the questions we cant answer.

ROBIN

[gav]

Ummm, Australia have different rules for their bucket racing over there. They can use 80cc MX engines in their bikes. So just because it was used in a bucket bike in Australia certainly doesnt mean in it is legal to use that motor here. Engine numbers are not usually stamped on the cylinder either.

[CHOPPA]

sorry i cant be of any more help. all iknow is our motor is an ar80 sorry you people cant find out more about it .now as far as i am concerned this correspondence is finnished.i have better things to do with my time .all i wanted to do was support a change in the rules not face the questions we cant answer.

ROBIN

Sorry if the questions where a problem, I was just trying to find information so I could use the same engine. It seems you think im accusing you of cheating which is not the case so if you could supply a photo of your engine then I could identify it for both of us cheers

[underpowered80]

Gavi the number on the barrel is only the cc rating .my son who built the bike said to me tonight if anyone wants a fast two stroke sleeve down a rg150 he said i give too much credit to the motor .he said after racing for 17yrs and on a rs frame .corner speed is where he gets riders. also the person he got the motor off .sold it because he had purchased a kx80 to replace it .i am not computer savvy so i cant send photos asi have said before go to kawasaki ar80 1999 and all the bikes come up from the philipines

robin

[CHOPPA]

Gavi the number on the barrel is only the cc rating .my son who built the bike said to me tonight if anyone wants a fast two stroke sleeve down a rg150 he said i give too much credit to the motor .he said after racing for 17yrs and on a rs frame .corner speed is where he gets riders. also the person he got the motor off .sold it because he had purchased a kx80 to replace it .i am not computer savvy so i cant send photos asi have said before go to kawasaki ar80 1999 and all the bikes come up from the philipines

robin

No problem mate, appreciate your help! I think by the sounds of things im going down a very similar route with the CRM80 engine so ill let you know how it all pans out

[underpowered80]

Hi,

this picture should help you out with the AR 80 issue.
I am the one who purchased the engine from aus and i fitted it into an rs125gp frame (91 model)
the motor has had some major work done to it since it was about 10hp standard, it has a six speed gear box, it was extremely under powered and had bugger all torque.
It has had extensive porting and head work, it has a v force 3 reed system fitted (which i fitted), a modified kx 80 exhaust ( all weld seams purge welded as im a fitter welder and everyone knows with a 2 stroke your exhaust is a very crucial part for success)
I have modified a rear moto X rear sprocket(42) and cnc'd my own stud centres and tig welded into sprocket centre to match the rs rear rim so the bike has more pull out of corners, The bike has been a project which i have done all the engineering and fitting work on so in the contex of buckets it has all been done by myself and very satisfying to get it on the track.
I just like to think that looking outside the square has its advantages and to have something that is different to everyone else makes it unique on the track.
So there is no cheating going on here just good old west coast engineering and riding the bike like an under powered rs 125 (high corner speed)

Regards
Justin Gray (#981)

[gav]

Hahaha, so Choppa asks for a photo of the (your) engine and you post a small photo of a fully faired bike?
Oh well ....
Has your motor no other engine numbers on it at all? Possibly near the countershaft sprocket? Or maybe its been ground off in Australia?
Posting some photos of your engine would help Choppa try and identify the engine.
You posted that the KX80 and AR80 engines are the same, yet none of those bikes pictured in the Phillipines appear to have an engine that is similiar to a KX motor. I think that is what Choppa was referring to.

[Yow Ling]

Stop acting like a policeman Gav, if you think its illegal protest it. Robin already told you to piss off !

[gav]

Stop acting like a policeman Gav, if you think its illegal protest it. Robin already told you to piss off !

Did I say it was illegal? And protest it to who? MNZ expect buckets to be "self policing" so they arent going to be interested?
If he has definative proof thats its an AR80 motor, thats great, all Choppa was asking was more info about it.

[jasonu]

Hi,


I have modified a rear moto X rear sprocket(42)

Regards
Justin Gray (#981)

Those are competition sprockets and are illegal for buckets.

[underpowered80]

Hi gav ihave taken the motor out .the only way to check for numbers .i found a no PA PE9 AR803038 it was tucked in the back near the sprocket.thanks for helping me find it. have checked it out on kawasaki site .no reference available to philipines manufacture but am glad i now can refer to this no
I CAN NOW FEEL HAPPY THAT ALL IS WELL

THANKS ROBIN