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    Quote Originally Posted by speedpro View Post
    More than one had "stern" words with me after a race.
    I hope you told them to get fucked.

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    mike you dick, they were riding their real racebikes & you were getting in their way of real racing. Clearly they were much faster than you, but you kept holding them up lap after lap. . . .um. . . .

    I enjoyed watching those races, shit was a few years back now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henk View Post
    Pretty much what I thought, started with legal bits.
    What class is a RGV150 or RG400 legal for??? The RG400 would make a great bucket haha

    Quote Originally Posted by gav View Post
    Hahaha, thats gonna be a great sales pitch isnt it? Yep your FXR155Z is legal, but first you need to modify/replace the cylinder and piston before you can race it cos its oversize. But its faster than a standard FXR150 too apparently on a dyno. Shame very few people race a standard FXR150 and its pretty easy and cheap to get a few more hp out of the fixxer. Not too sure the pitster has much more to offer to be honest.

    Henk, how many ran at HD? The same classes ran here at King of Ruapuna, 39 riders fronted for first practice session! One race was red flagged twice., and not helped when the NZ Prolite champ crashed in the entry to the dipper and left his bike bleeding to death.
    They could sell it to you 'S/H' with the modifications already done to it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    What class is a RGV150 or RG400 legal for??? The RG400 would make a great bucket haha



    They could sell it to you 'S/H' with the modifications already done to it......
    Well the RG400 is a non competition bike & 1 cylinder is 99cc. Several have been used in the past grafted onto Kawi 100s etc.


    Needless to say they don't just bolt on,
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Well the RG400 is a non competition bike & 1 cylinder is 99cc. Several have been used in the past grafted onto Kawi 100s etc.


    Needless to say they don't just bolt on,
    Like this one. KE125 bottom end with ONE RG400 cylinder.
    Both non competition bikes.
    Built it in an afternoon over a few beers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Well the RG400 is a non competition bike & 1 cylinder is 99cc. Several have been used in the past grafted onto Kawi 100s etc.


    Needless to say they don't just bolt on,
    So on that basis with the modifications to the 155 that I have suggested then it would be legal as that engine comes out in a entry level non competition pit bike

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    No wonder MNZ dont wont anything to do with these rules the loop holes and interpretation leave them wide open

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    No wonder MNZ dont wont anything to do with these rules the loop holes and interpretation leave them wide open
    Yep, got it in one!!
    Sure, the bike could be OK to race once it was modified to suit the rules, obviously. But that wasnt how this thread started out. Remember the discussion suggested if the bike was legal to race as is. Pretty much any bike can be modified to suit the rules.
    Even a full blown 125GP bike is a potential bucket racer, slot in an appropriate motor that complies with the rules, and away you go.

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    I have talked with this guy, English is not his first language but his ideas sound pretty reasonable, he has had one on JC's dyno, 15+ rwhp apparently.

    He also tells me the engine is used in road bikes, so that makes it a sports engine suitable for racing, sounds a bit like the way the Aprilia AM6 engine is used. The only real sticking point is the 155cc, I guess the rule benders amongst us will find a way around that, rule bending its a Bucket tradition.

    I think he is also planning on nyloning them up so they are track ready. He is planning on bringing one down to display at the next Mt Welly Bucket meet.

    Its the next step up from buying a Loncin. He is a good guy who will listen to constructive suggestions and is trying to market something that meets the rules as he gets to understand them so he is worth giving a fair hearing.

    PS Av and Hayden were given a CBR125 by Honda for the 2 hour, promising but not that competitive.

    Buckets must be going some where when people start pitching bikes directly to Bucketracers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
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    I have talked with this guy, English is not his first language but his ideas sound pretty reasonable, he has had one on JC's dyno, 15+ rwhp apparently.

    He also tells me the engine is used in road bikes, so that makes it a sports engine suitable for racing, sounds a bit like the way the Aprilia AM6 engine is used. The only real sticking point is the 155cc, I guess the rule benders amongst us will find a way around that, rule bending its a Bucket tradition.

    I think he is also planning on nyloning them up so they are track ready. He is planning on bringing one down to display at the next Mt Welly Bucket meet.

    Its the next step up from buying a Loncin. He is a good guy who will listen to constructive suggestions and is trying to market something that meets the rules as he gets to understand them so he is worth giving a fair hearing.

    PS Av and Hayden were given a CBR125 by Honda for the 2 hour, promising but not that competitive.

    Buckets must be going some where when people start pitching bikes directly to Bucketracers.

    Its a great class it just has to drop the name BUCKET

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    Its a great class it just has to drop the name BUCKET
    Would you prefer the term "miniature road racing" as per MNZ? Or F4 F5?

    When I tell people I race an F4 bike I have to then explain it all including the capacity limits in the context of buckets anyway. When I tell them I race a bucket most people know what I mean. It's not the name, it's the perception that some people have of buckets from days long past that seems to cause the issue and anyone that has been to a meet in the last five years or so doesn't hold the view that they are piles of crap held together with wire and tape as far as I can tell.

    To be honest the names they have given to the "serious" race classes in the last couple of years confuse the shit out of me. F1, F2, F3 I could understand. All this superprolighttwins stuff has me scratching my head.
    Although the great unwashed non motorcycling public out there seems to think that F5 should be faster than every capacity class with a smaller number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    it just has to drop the name BUCKET
    Dumbest idea yet, but tends to be suggested by all the newbies
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    I had a good argument with mum about what Henk and I get up to on the track. I told we ride buckets, so she asked someone what they were and had sidecars explained to her. Of course the person who explained what buckets were knew more than I do about what sort of bikes we ride. What would I know, I'm only riding a bucket, not actually talking about them.

    I'm sure mum still thinks we race/ride sidecars and has never looked at the photos I've sent links of.

    If I told her I ride F4/F5, she'd probably suspect we'd gone to the dark side and started racing cars. Maybe we should drag her down there one day, least I could put my helmet on and head out to the track when she got to be too much lol

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    Id be happy to explain I race Miniature road race. Its road racing on little bikes on kart tracks rather then i do bucket racing, its riding buckets of shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
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    He also tells me the engine is used in road bikes, so that makes it a sports engine suitable for racing, sounds a bit like the way the Aprilia AM6 engine is used. The only real sticking point is the 155cc, I guess the rule benders amongst us will find a way around that, rule bending its a Bucket tradition.



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    If this is true and he can prove it then all that needs to be done is a resleve to 150 and away you go. No 'rule bending' required.

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