What class will this fit into?

**Yow Ling** · 8th December 2011, 05:24

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Id be happy to explain I race Miniature road race. Its road racing on little bikes on kart tracks rather then i do bucket racing, its riding buckets of shit

That is only true up north, down here its " road racing on little bikes on racetracks like Ruapuna , Levels and street circuits like Nelson Greymouth and Methven. We not allowed near a Kart Track

**Kickaha** · 8th December 2011, 05:38

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Id be happy to explain I race Miniature road race. Its road racing on little bikes on kart tracks rather then i do bucket racing, its riding buckets of shit

So it's about image more than reality then, because people most can't get over the negativity associated with Buckets (Buckets of shit) that hasn't been true for a considerable time, "Buckets" have a longer history in NZ than the poxy Superbikes

**CHOPPA** · 8th December 2011, 06:11

Originally Posted by Kickaha

So it's about image more than reality then, because people most can't get over the negativity associated with Buckets (Buckets of shit) that hasn't been true for a considerable time, "Buckets" have a longer history in NZ than the poxy Superbikes

It was actually in reply to someones comment about sponsors for Bucket racing but yes I agree image is everything!

**Kickaha** · 8th December 2011, 06:22

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

It was actually in reply to someones comment about sponsors for Bucket racing but yes I agree image is everything!

It isn't compulsory to use the word Bucket, you could use F4, F5 (depending on your class)or Miniature road racing, of course most people wouldn't know what you're talking about until you add the word Bucket

**F5 Dave** · 8th December 2011, 09:47

Originally Posted by RDjase

What about this for F5..........................

http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/ca...cc?SKU=1546466

and almost on cue:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6104...uthland-family

so good luck finishing a 20 lapper.

It amazes me People say that Chinese stuff will get better like the Japanese did. There are fundamental differences in the culture & Japanese respect engineering. Have to have larger overseas companies driving the manufacture or shit will stay shit.

**RDjase** · 8th December 2011, 11:43

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

and almost on cue:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6104...uthland-family

so good luck finishing a 20 lapper.

It amazes me People say that Chinese stuff will get better like the Japanese did. There are fundamental differences in the culture & Japanese respect engineering. Have to have larger overseas companies driving the manufacture or shit will stay shit.

I think the last lot of shit bikes had leaky fuel tanks and got recalled

I bought a $50 pocket bike, same looking engine, it was hard to push and it was really tight and the front sprocket didnt want to turn, Took the primary/internal chain cover off and it just had a few blobs of cheap rock hard grease in it and the cover was loading up the bearings. made a 0.5mm gasket, put a small amount of oil in to lube the chain asnd the sprocket turned nicly, well as nice as chinese bearings do.
All the bolt were made of cheap bolts and as strong as hard cheese and heaps of threads came out while working on it.

Cheap Nasty Shit !

It did go ok after hours of fucking with it, Sold it for $60

1st (and only) bike to make a profit from

**goivy26** · 17th January 2012, 10:33

Just to let everyone know, my bike is not illegal.

It conforms to the rules in everyway, it is not competion based, the frame is based on a klx110, the engine is based on one of the oldest jap motors around, the honda monkey (and many others), it is 140cc and puts out less than 12hp, its a fun dirt bike not a CRF150R or similar.

So anyone who wants to protest it feel free but be sure you do your homework.

By the way the 2hr was only my 2nd bucket race maybe I should get the 22hp 152cc kit and some suspension that is better than the pogo stick standard stuff I have now and then you would have somthing to moan about (and even then it would still be legal!!).

So to all you haters of the mighty team Mo-Hard mini motard, "if you cant handle the jandle put on some sneakers".

Ivy Smith and Mark Addison
Team Mo-Hard

**richban** · 17th January 2012, 10:50

Originally Posted by goivy26

Just to let everyone know, my bike is not illegal.

It conforms to the rules in everyway, it is not competion based, the frame is based on a klx110, the engine is based on one of the oldest jap motors around, the honda monkey (and many others), it is 140cc and puts out less than 12hp, its a fun dirt bike not a CRF150R or similar.

So anyone who wants to protest it feel free but be sure you do your homework.

By the way the 2hr was only my 2nd bucket race maybe I should get the 22hp 152cc kit and some suspension that is better than the pogo stick standard stuff I have now and then you would have somthing to moan about (and even then it would still be legal!!).

So to all you haters of the mighty team Mo-Hard mini motard, "if you cant handle the jandle put on some sneakers".

Ivy Smith and Mark Addison
Team Mo-Hard

So will you be wanting to race at the GP in March? Or is this for kart tracks only?

**goivy26** · 17th January 2012, 20:25

Originally Posted by richban

So will you be wanting to race at the GP in March? Or is this for kart tracks only?

Keen as mustard but might have to put on a 23 tooth rear sprocket!!! just out of interest what sort of hp do you guys get out of your FXR's ?

Ivy

**Yow Ling** · 17th January 2012, 20:36

Originally Posted by goivy26

Keen as mustard but might have to put on a 23 tooth rear sprocket!!! just out of interest what sort of hp do you guys get out of your FXR's ?

Ivy

20 is easy, gets harder from there

**Bert** · 17th January 2012, 21:52

Originally Posted by goivy26

Just to let everyone know, my bike is not illegal.

It conforms to the rules in everyway, it is not competion based, the frame is based on a klx110, the engine is based on one of the oldest jap motors around, the honda monkey (and many others), it is 140cc and puts out less than 12hp, its a fun dirt bike not a CRF150R or similar.

So anyone who wants to protest it feel free but be sure you do your homework.

By the way the 2hr was only my 2nd bucket race maybe I should get the 22hp 152cc kit and some suspension that is better than the pogo stick standard stuff I have now and then you would have somthing to moan about (and even then it would still be legal!!).

So to all you haters of the mighty team Mo-Hard mini motard, "if you cant handle the jandle put on some sneakers".

Ivy Smith and Mark Addison
Team Mo-Hard

What strikes me is your interesting perceptive and style of communication Team-Mo-Hard.

I guess that many of the people that have posted on this thread and others like this, are & have been around the sport for a large number of years (some have also done considerable work to keep the class's alive and the tracks available to race on) they are actually trying help to point you in the right direction.
While your current motor is not a Daytona or Japanese "performance" engine (I've seen new performance heads that know one would be able to tell the difference), I'm guessing that in the back of many minds is the burning question; how long will it be until these "performance" also start appearing (not calling you a cheat; but others will come along).
Somewhere along the lines, organisers may put a stop to this type of machinery as it may not meet the requirement/agreement made with track owners (perception maybe all it takes to loose track access).

While the bike may meet the rules does it meet the sprite of the class?

At club level; sure, more the merrier maybe; GP & BOB (i might be out of line here) but sorry nope, I would have thought it would actually be dangerous having a mini-motard on the track (different lines and different & style..... lots of things... rider height, lean angles, braking points the list gos on in my mind).

I think its cool that you have an interest in a sport that offers so much (The only real "build your own" formula classes still running in nz; great tight racing & most of all a great bunch of people always willing to help you out and help you get dr##K) thus far everyone has been trying to help, maybe the middle finger isn't the solution here (some of these people actually run and have control over meetings)..
p.s. I wear sandles; best of both worlds....

**wildman** · 18th January 2012, 01:51

I love these forums the're both entertaining and informative and i've got an easy solution to this whole subject of what is legal and what is not. SELL THE BIKE AND GET A SIDECAR, so much more fun especially when you can scare the shit out of others with it. You can't get a factory built one with a race engine so there would be no arguement over legality and the' re a true build your own formula where no one would even think of cheating. Now where did i put that RM motor from my go-kart.

**jasonu** · 18th January 2012, 05:32

Originally Posted by wildman

You can't get a factory built one with a race engine so there would be no arguement over legality and the' re a true build your own formula where no one would even think of cheating. Now where did i put that RM motor from my go-kart.

Wrong mate. The non comp engine rule covers ALL Bucket classes.
If it didn't then don't you think there would already be hundreds of CRF150R powered outfits?
You new guys need to PROPERLY read the rules and ask questions before you go out and possibly buy illegal or even marginal machines.

**Buckets4Me** · 18th January 2012, 05:36

Originally Posted by wildman

You can't get a factory built one with a race engine so there would be no arguement over legality and the' re a true build your own formula where no one would even think of cheating. Now where did i put that RM motor from my go-kart.

the Rm motor is out sorry cant use that

no one is stoping him racing his mini motard
but I do think he should build a sidecar (Has to be a non competitive engine. So no motorcross or race engines. Dosent matter what bike he uses just the engine)

**Yow Ling** · 18th January 2012, 05:43

Originally Posted by Buckets4Me

the Rm motor is out sorry cant use that

no one is stoping him racing his mini motard
but I do think he should build a sidecar (Has to be a non competitive engine. So no motorcross or race engines. Dosent matter what bike he uses just the engine)

If everyone had non competitive engines how could anybody win?
Maybe time to re read that rule