Is John Key the man to lead NZ?

[BoristheBiter]

Aren't Statistics grand?

So what's your point?
Are you saying that they rigged the voting results and 48% of THEM THAT VOTED did not vote for National?

[Brian d marge]

And the selling of the silver has begun,

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...claims-mandate

Sandals any one come and get yr sandals .......

Ky Jelly come and get yr Jelly .........

Stephen

Ps the treasury has always been very prudent NZ is very good at managing and is held in high regard , but this smacks of America too much ( in fact its classic IMF , see some south American countries , and worries me )

[Crasherfromwayback]

, but this smacks of America too much ( in fact its classic IMF , see some south American countries , and worries me )

Why would it seeing as you're in Japan and love it so much you'll never be back?

[scumdog]

What could you possibly find funny in that?
Are you identifying yourself as one of the plonkers that thought reasonable force was a satisfactory defense for bashing children?

I was laughing at the 'jousting at windmills' efficiency of the act.

It's saved a lot of kids from the bash eh.....and even more from being killed...oh yes...

The only ones that would be concerned about the dumb-arsed law are the ones that wouldn't bash their kids anyway.

The rest wouldn't give a fat rats arse.

Good old Sue...

[Hinny]

"I know that some New Zealanders don't think that now but there's a massive amount of capital that needs to be invested." John Key.

Who agrees with this statement?
Does the following alter your opinion?:

• it is capital which is already invested.
• It is invested in strategic assets. Security of energy supply is as important as security of food and water.
• It is making a return far in excess of the cost of borrowing.

[Hinny]

The only ones that would be concerned about the dumb-arsed law are the ones that wouldn't bash their kids anyway.

In my opinion the part of the law which was repealed was dumb-arsed.
If you disagree, perhaps you could enlighten us as to why?

As to Sue Bradford's success, I challenge you to find any other first time politician who has had three private members bill selected and adopted.

PS
I remember John Campbell expressing surprise when Jonkey said his party had been an early and vigorous supporter of the bill.

[SPman]

Get some comprehension skills retard; there was no question directed at me There was another bullshit loaded up question directed at another though.

....Which was replied to with a scathing comment, which was replied to with a scathing comment, reworded, which brought forth more scathe! About all one would expect, however..........

[BoristheBiter]

I remember John Campbell expressing surprise when John key said his party had been an early and vigorous supporter of the bill.

I would be surprised if JC could express anything.

[Robert Taylor]

It wasnt so dreadful seeing Damien Oconnor ( Labour ) get his seat back, given that he had no time for the lesbo activists and faggots that once had the most control of that party. Thats a victory for those who are not concerned about pc b...s..t.

[Brian d marge]

Why would it seeing as you're in Japan and love it so much you'll never be back?

its heartbreaking seeing a place I worked in / worked for , had my shag in .....ruined ,

I dont know , funny that , call me old fashioned , but I still try and support local NZ business , I bank with Kiwibank .... I may even buy some land there soon ......


but Ill be stuffed if Ill spend my life pushing shit up hill , its a damn sight easier elsewhere .... IMHO ( widely traveled opinion )


Stephen


ps im not sure what you actually said , why would it smack of america? and what has my living in another country have to do with that ??? I have answered the second part of your question , the first , just Google criticism of the IMF

[Winston001]

I wonder who came up with the idea to sell state assets.
It would appear it was someone who clearly is not working for the benefit of New Zealand.
On the figures given to the media these assets are returning around 17%.
Does that point escape most people?

I'm not in favour of the part-sale of the SOEs but for the sake of balance, addressed these points earlier:

The dividend from these SOEs is around 2-3% pa. There had been an artificial increase in the returns because of restructuring among the power companies - swapping dams and power stations.

Trustpower (public listed company) think Meridian are nuts for building their latest windfarm which doesn't stack up financially. I have no idea who is right but if Meridian had public shareholders, they'd have a lot more explaining to do.

"I know that some New Zealanders don't think that now but there's a massive amount of capital that needs to be invested." John Key.

Who agrees with this statement?

The money referred to is not government assets or savings. It is term deposits and bonds held by mum and dad who do not have anywhere else safe to put their savings. These ordinary kiwis previously put their life savings into finance companies because "financial advisors" told them to. As a result they are scared stiff of anything clever or risky so nice safe boring utility companies (the SOEs) will be a godsend.

Have a look at international sharemarkets. No punter ever talks about investing in electricity, water, roads, pipelines (utilities) because such companies don't make big money. Dull dull dull. But they don't fail either.

[Headbanger]

What could you possibly find funny in that?
Are you identifying yourself as one of the plonkers that thought reasonable force was a satisfactory defense for bashing children?

And this is the point your "smarter then everyone else" facade crumbles into dust.

Here's a hint, just for you, if you want to put yourself across as intelligent, don't post stupid shit.

Personally I'd be all for the anti-smacking bill if it had a clause for thumping pretentious twats.

[Headbanger]

its heartbreaking seeing a place I worked in / worked for , had my shag in .....ruined ,

Notice how none of us are telling you how it is in the land of the slit eye?

Now, why is that do you think?

[Hinny]

In my opinion the part of the law which was repealed was dumb-arsed.
If you disagree, perhaps you could enlighten us as to why?

As to Sue Bradford's success, I challenge you to find any other first time politician who has had three private members bill selected and adopted.

PS
I remember John Campbell expressing surprise when Jonkey said his party had been an early and vigorous supporter of the bill.

And this is the point your "smarter then everyone else" facade crumbles into dust.

Here's a hint, just for you, if you want to put yourself across as intelligent, don't post stupid shit.

Personally I'd be all for the anti-smacking bill if it had a clause for thumping pretentious twats.

If you are identifying yourself as one of the plonkers that thought reasonable force was a satisfactory defense for bashing children then perhaps you could address the points and questions in my earlier post.

re. your last line I almost agree with you.
They had a law which kind of allowed adults to belt children.
I used to think a major injustice was that you were not allowed to belt adults; no matter how much they deserved it.

[Hinny]

Have a look at international sharemarkets. No punter ever talks about investing in electricity, water, roads, pipelines (utilities) because such companies don't make big money. Dull dull dull. But they don't fail either.

Um, heard if a company called Enron?

Sounds like Rob Muldoon's advice was right - best investment is putting your money in the bank.