Child abuse: when the FUCK are we going to actually take this seriously?

[Crasherfromwayback]

On Thursday or Fridays news there was an article on the latest case of infanticide where the family are doing a Kahui and saying nothing.

Haven't seen the news since. Has there been any development?

Same old. Four aresholes stonewalling the police.

[Brett]

On Thursday or Fridays news there was an article on the latest case of infanticide where the family are doing a Kahui and saying nothing.

Haven't seen the news since. Has there been any development?

In the herald today.

[Brett]

Same old. Four aresholes stonewalling the police.

Let some good old ex-spec ops interrogators loose on them. They will find out the truth very quickly. I bet that under the "hard man" exterior these clowns will be as soft as silly putty once someone actually puts the heat on them.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Let some good old ex-spec ops interrogators loose on them. They will find out the truth very quickly. I bet that under the "hard man" exterior these clowns will be as soft as silly putty once someone actually puts the heat on them.

Waterboard the cunts. It'd work wonders.

[imdying]

Holding them indefinitely for perjury until they cough.

[blue rider]

Interesting point to pick

Personally I see blood on her hands too, but YMMV... I would wager $100 that 95% of people in their neighbourhood owns a higher spec cellphone than I do. She could have summoned free help at any stage.

Perhaps if they were allowed to self govern in the manner that they see fit, in communities no larger than one where everyone basically knows everyone else, they could sort these people out in their own way? I could be wrong, but someone on here will likely as not have some info on child abuse rates in tribal societies.

i agree with you, however what happened in these five days we don't know. obviously when she tried to intervene he threatend her and her other offspring, so there is that.

Lets not forget that it was a bloke who beat the life out of a 6 month old.

what gets me in the reactions after these abuse cases is that the call is generally to have a certain segment of the population to stop breeding, to be sterilized - this is basically saying society should decide which women are allowed to breed, no mention of the Men who in many cases are the actual abusing part.


What I showed you was how your message reads if we would be talking about the actual abuser - the man - being stopped from procreating - permanently.

You obviously don't like the idea of castration, and I can't fault you, the idea of sterilization is just as unpleasant.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Holding them indefinitely for perjury until they cough.

Gotta feed them etc doing that. Waterboarding is quick and cheap.

[blue rider]

as for punishment,

lock them away and loose the key.

[Crasherfromwayback]

as for punishment,

lock them away and loose the key.

Once you've cut their balls off.

[Edbear]

Interesting point to pick

Personally I see blood on her hands too, but YMMV... I would wager $100 that 95% of people in their neighbourhood owns a higher spec cellphone than I do. She could have summoned free help at any stage.

Perhaps if they were allowed to self govern in the manner that they see fit, in communities no larger than one where everyone basically knows everyone else, they could sort these people out in their own way? I could be wrong, but someone on here will likely as not have some info on child abuse rates in tribal societies.

You'd be surprised at the dynamics of women in abusive relationships. The sheer terror and hoplessness they feel paralyzes them and it takes a very strong woman with a huge amount of courage to speak out. These men are totally without conscience and cruel in the extreme. Yes they are cowards and will back off when confronted by a man who can look them in the eye, but never understimate their viscousness to anyone and anything weaker.

There are clear signs and how they regard animals is a sign far too often overlooked and minimised. They are often created by parents who try to protect them from the consequences of their actions, often due to the mother's fear of what the father will do to the boy if he found out about the boy's misedemanour. So mother covers up for him and hides it from his father, and the boy grows up knowing his mother will always shield him from any consequences and as he gets bigger he can then bully and manipulate his mother.

He grows up without conscience and without regard for consequences and without any vestige of respect for any kind of authority. Too often, mother has created a monster out of misguided love. A violent father contributes as does the total lack of family interaction where kids are tolerated as long as they shut up and leave the adults alone.

[blue rider]

Once you've cut their balls off.

ok - why not

[Newbi]

Easy decision, caught out doing that to a tiny human being, Lie them down place 12 gauge shotgun into their mouth, pull the trigger. I generously offer myself up for that particular job, Cheers

[imdying]

i agree with you, however what happened in these five days we don't know. obviously when she tried to intervene he threatend her and her other offspring, so there is that.

Rubbish. You're telling me she couldn't send a text or make a call whilst sitting down for a piss?

Lets not forget that it was a bloke who beat the life out of a 6 month old.

And a woman that let him get away with it... and a society that is protecting them.

what gets me in the reactions after these abuse cases is that the call is generally to have a certain segment of the population to stop breeding, to be sterilized - this is basically saying society should decide which women are allowed to breed, no mention of the Men who in many cases are the actual abusing part.

No, that's your one track man hating mind going off on an unrelated tangent.

You obviously don't like the idea of castration

Please, do quote me which bit made that obvious to you

This isn't a gender issue, you're off your rocker if you think it is.

[Brett]

This isn't a gender issue, you're off your rocker if you think it is.

Damn straight, this is not a gender issue, although men would be more strongly represented. Ask anyone who is a paramedic, cop or doctor, there are plenty of women abusers out there as well. I confronted a woman at a traffic light whose child was jumping around the car (with windows open) and nearly fell out...mother didn't care at all, and she did see it happen. When I asked her why she lets her 3 year old act like that in the car, she threatened to "give me the bash" (nearly laughed at her...)

There are plenty of men AND women who are abusers and who contribute to the dysfunctional environment that the kids grow up in. Enablers are 99% as bad as the abusers themselves.

[JimO]

can they not all be charged with murder?? im sure the real story would emerge pretty soon, everybody baggs the police constantly but the police have to deal with people like this on a daily basis, im sure it wears them down