Child abuse: when the FUCK are we going to actually take this seriously?

[oneofsix]

But the goverment passed a LAW against child abuse ... didn't they ... ???

No. There was always a law against abuse it was just that lawyers and judges couldn't tell the difference between abuse a reasonable force so the Government removed the reasonable force defence. This hasn't stopped abuse but it does mean that the person that argued using alcathen (that wont be spelt right) pipe to beat her child wouldn't now be able to get a judge to call it reasonable force. However it also means you can't smack or restrain your child against its will because children are just mini adults don't you know (so why can't they drink or drive)

[Winston001]

But the goverment passed a LAW against child abuse ... didn't they ... ???

Agreed. And they passed a law against murder, rape, assault, burglary, fraud etc....

These crimes still occur. Do you think we shouldn't make them unlawful?


Child abuse is obscene. Anything which strengthens the law to protect children has to be good.

[FJRider]

Agreed. And they passed a law against murder, rape, assault, burglary, fraud etc....

These crimes still occur. Do you think we shouldn't make them unlawful?


Child abuse is obscene. Anything which strengthens the law to protect children has to be good.

A change to the laws regarding being put into custody for some offences ... UNTILL THE CASE IS HEARD ... (including drink driving) A police cell ... not the Milton Hilton ...

[oneofsix]

Looks like the Government is about to deal to those that chose to support child abuse through the code of silence.

Child advocates are hailing new laws giving sweeping powers to prosecute all those turning a blind eye to assaults on the very young.

The Crimes Amendment Act (No3) becomes law on March 19 and will allow police to charge everyone in a household with failing to protect a child.

The maximum sentence is 10 years' jail.

[BoristheBiter]

Looks like the Government is about to deal to those that chose to support child abuse through the code of silence.

It's a start but should be life in prison.

[oneofsix]

It's a start but should be life in prison.

you would let them live

[oneofsix]

This report suggests attitudes are changing

Nationally, there were 150,747 notifications, up from 124,921 the previous year. Almost 11,000 of those came from family members.

It is the change in attitude that is going to do the fixing of the problem, making abuse unacceptable before it happens. Trouble is there will always be the exceptions and this is were the law steps in and it appears the police have been doing there bit unless the reported increase is due to the "anti-smacking" law causing a wave of frivolous complaints.

[imdying]

Child advocates are hailing new laws giving sweeping powers to prosecute all those turning a blind eye to assaults on the very young.

What a fucking load of shite. The very young? Why are people allowed to turn a blind eye, period?

[BoristheBiter]

you would let them live

call me a softy.

[mashman]

call me a softy.

I call you a liar sir, a softy, yhar right... if they're fuckin with kids, bury them. They're kids. Same thing goes for rape aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand lots of other anti-human shit.

[BoristheBiter]

I call you a liar sir, a softy, yhar right... if they're fuckin with kids, bury them. They're kids. Same thing goes for rape aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand lots of other anti-human shit.

I call you...... WTF?. Where in this post has kiddy fiddling come into it?

[oneofsix]

I call you...... WTF?. Where in this post has kiddy fiddling come into it?

Point. Abuse means both kiddy fiddling and physical bashing but the law changed is targeted at the bashing, probably on the assumption that even the family are unaware of the fiddling but it should apply equally.

[Paul in NZ]

Its the song that never ends..... apparently

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...oddlers-murder

[oneofsix]

Its the song that never ends..... apparently

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...oddlers-murder

augh shit. And with Xmas stress it will get worse. Women's refuge bleat on about the woman, fair enough too, but what of the kids? And too often now the woman are part of the problem, perhaps sometimes to avoid a beating themselves but not always, shit if its to avoid a beating go to Women's Refuge don't protect an arsehole

[Paul in NZ]

augh shit. And with Xmas stress it will get worse. Women's refuge bleat on about the woman, fair enough too, but what of the kids? And too often now the woman are part of the problem, perhaps sometimes to avoid a beating themselves but not always, shit if its to avoid a beating go to Women's Refuge don't protect an arsehole

Easier said than done with some of these guys. The kids are used as a tool to get her to shut up.

I dunno.... I really don't.