Child abuse: when the FUCK are we going to actually take this seriously?

[caseye]

Yes - it does exist - a few women do get pregnant because it earns them more money. I don't believe it is as big a problem as some people think ... it's a small minority of solo parents. The rest are just clueless and get pregnant because they do not know how to use birth control ... or don't care ...

No, sorry bandit, in this day and age, of informed consents where schools can arrange for your child to be aborted without telling you, these young solo mums ( there are solo mums who don't do this, lets be clear)who have more than one child to most often more than one father, do so in the certain knowledge that they are going to get more Money.
That is these days the major motivating factor.
They do know and they expect us all to keep putting our hands in our pockets to keep them in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
I saw it everyday reading meter in any and all parts of Dorkland.
Home on the porch with their other solo mum mates drinking nice grog, smoking good weed, getting laid as often as they want and never having to work a day in their fucking lives.
not a few, not here and there, Everywhere.

[FJRider]

But it still makes me so sad, that we can allow our kids to grow up so damaged that they think their behaviour is okay.....

I think they know it's not OK ... just think it's normal. But they know they can get away with it ... and in most occasions they do.

And if at worst they get locked up ... no more worries about a place to sleep ... or food on the table.

[Road kill]

I think they know it's not OK ... just think it's normal. But they know they can get away with it ... and in most occasions they do.

And if at worst they get locked up ... no more worries about a place to sleep ... or food on the table.

One girl I know quite well that has two sprogs both to different losers completely believes it's "very Ok" and also very normal because her mother did exactly the same thing.

She lives in a house with another sister and two brothers "all of them on one benefit or another "and if you were to speak to any of them they would tell you in no uncertain words that there is no stigma to what they are doing and that it is accepted by most people today,,,So "YOU" should just get the fuck over it.

As much as I hate it "in a way I can see their point because "from my own point of view" all young people today feel they are entitled to different handouts because it's what they see everyday of their lives.

Race or social standing doesn't come into it "all young people today do know they have this safety net and if it really was wrong,,,well then it wouldn't exist would it ?

Therefore people like me are just bitter an twisted old people that just don't get it.

Which is also true.

[Genestho]

No, sorry bandit, in this day and age, of informed consents where schools can arrange for your child to be aborted without telling you, these young solo mums ( there are solo mums who don't do this, lets be clear)who have more than one child to most often more than one father, do so in the certain knowledge that they are going to get more Money.
That is these days the major motivating factor.
They do know and they expect us all to keep putting our hands in our pockets to keep them in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
I saw it everyday reading meter in any and all parts of Dorkland.
Home on the porch with their other solo mum mates drinking nice grog, smoking good weed, getting laid as often as they want and never having to work a day in their fucking lives.
not a few, not here and there, Everywhere.

Everywhere, my arse!!

Sorry to burst your beneficiary bashing bubble but, it is just a small minority, don't tar the whole community with the same brush, please!!

Have you seen the state of the divorce rate? Have you ever raised kids on your own, how else should the financial (let alone emotional) raising of children be done, oh by the fathers as well, you say?

How many men dip their penises and then walk from their responsibility? HEAPS, I can tell you the amount of good women I know left by deadbeat dads, gone to sniff out another lifestyle then go on to squirt more kids into the world. The bludgers are a minority that I agree need dealing with, but deal with the deadbeat Dads as well, it's not one sided!

[caseye]

A bit touchy there genestho, I walked the streets reading meters for the best part of a year, streets in all suburbs of AK, what I saw would make your skin crawl.
I believe in an earlier post I said, they, both the girls and the boys who practice this sort of thievery against the majority should all be sterilised as part of the remedy.
By the way, I've just spent over 8 months convalescing after breaking a leg, to date I've had absolutely nothing from any NZ Govt agency, but my three still at home teenage daughters have all still got a roof over their heads,as well as all securing good jobs and having ongoing employment into next year.
My wife and I still manage with what we do have and have done without many of the things we'd normally have.
I also said very specifically in my last post that we needed to be clear not all solo mums do this, please read what is written before going off half cocked, hummm seems there's a good one shot,liner in there somewhere.

[Genestho]

A bit touchy there genestho, I walked the streets reading meters for the best part of a year, streets in all suburbs of AK, what I saw would make your skin crawl.
I believe in an earlier post I said, they, both the girls and the boys who practice this sort of thievery against the majority should all be sterilised as part of the remedy.
By the way, I've just spent over 8 months convalescing after breaking a leg, to date I've had absolutely nothing from any NZ Govt agency, but my three still at home teenage daughters have all still got a roof over their heads,as well as all securing good jobs and having ongoing employment into next year.
My wife and I still manage with what we do have and have done without many of the things we'd normally have.
I also said very specifically in my last post that we needed to be clear not all solo mums do this, please read what is written before going off half cocked, hummm seems there's a good one shot,liner in there somewhere.

Not touchy at all, you should see me on a touchy day!! That's awesome and I'm glad you're able to organise your life well, I always have too.

But for some they have no support from anyone, never have and your post wreaks of stereotyping. Suburbs in Auckland are not the rest of New Zealand!!

[jasonu]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10852332

And still the cycle continues.

" Police believe the toddler's injuries were inflicted around November or December last year "by way of full immersion of his hands into boiling water".

Despite the boy's horrific injuries, no proper medical attention was provided until child protection agencies became involved by chance in August this year, it is alleged.

It was understood the toddler suffered severe burns and deformities, which even senior police and medical experts have found disturbing.

The burns extended to the boy's mid-wrists and he will need extensive skin-graft surgery for the wounds"

And she is trying to claim that the boy immersed his own hands up to the forearm by accident, and has no excuse for why she never sought medical care for him. I think that a fair punishment for child abusers is to have what they did to the child done to them and then a minimum 5 year jail term. Oh...and the government needs to stop subsidising breeding. Basic economics, subsidise something and you'll get more of it. Hence breeding for money with no love for the kids. Fuck, I am sick of this and sick of feeling helpless to help the helpless.

Fuck me, free on bail???

[Edbear]

Fuck me, free on bail???

Yeah, but at least the boy is out of her care and can get the treatment he needs.

[Banditbandit]

Fuck me, free on bail???

Would it be any different in the great U S of A?

[jasonu]

Would it be any different in the great U S of A?

I believe yes to that. The yanks don't (usually) fuck about when it comes to kiddie fiddlers and/or abusers and they don't (usually) get any mercy from the courts. And IF they did get bail the amount would be out of reach of most people anyway.

[mashman]

One girl I know quite well that has two sprogs both to different losers completely believes it's "very Ok" and also very normal because her mother did exactly the same thing.

She lives in a house with another sister and two brothers "all of them on one benefit or another "and if you were to speak to any of them they would tell you in no uncertain words that there is no stigma to what they are doing and that it is accepted by most people today,,,So "YOU" should just get the fuck over it.

As much as I hate it "in a way I can see their point because "from my own point of view" all young people today feel they are entitled to different handouts because it's what they see everyday of their lives.

Race or social standing doesn't come into it "all young people today do know they have this safety net and if it really was wrong,,,well then it wouldn't exist would it ?

Therefore people like me are just bitter an twisted old people that just don't get it.

Which is also true.

In ways I agree with you M. In others re: entitlement I don't. Yes they know what they can legally get... but that's the "fault" of the way we live. I highly doubt that they'd love to be lumped with several kids to several partners, but if it's paying the bills and offering easy street then I can't say I'm surprised that they're taking advantage of the system. You highlight as much. Reckon they'd use contraception if money wasn't the end game? I don't.

Someone mentioned divorce earlier. I read somewhere, statistics (US I think) that they reckon 90% of divorces were due to financial issues. If that's anywhere near true then women getting preggers for money and people divorcing because of a lack of money boils down to one thing. Money. Yes it's my pet hate, but you yourself point out that that's why some girls do these things. Praps contraception would be more de rigueur if money wasn't an issue. As much as people may detest the idea, you're not going to stop it without getting rid of the reason that the "issue" exists.

Til that day, it's game on.