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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Belligerent bikers in New Zealand? You're dreaming. In the last few years, most motorcycles I see are doing erm...roughly 100k's in 100k zones. Can't say I see a lot of wheelstands these days. Most seem to be WOF'd. Most have headlights on.
    Icing on cake....the hordes of "belligerent" bikers who said "fuck ACC, I'm not paying those exorbent rego's fees....grr !".......are basically being good sheeple who've rolled over and are now err....paying their rego fees.

    Time to invest in floro vests bro
    Yes to an extent. I see the idea of compulsory fluro as a poorly justified, quantum leap of interference in personal choice vs the easier situation of ramping up the existing rego gouge.

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    OK I'm a bit late on this none but has anyone else done this?

    Hello there Phil.
    My name is Mark Casidy.
    I ride motorcycles, my wife also rides, between us we have three bikes in the shed. Two of which are used daily for commuting to and from work.
    It is bad enough that the Govt already takes such a huge whack out of us for Rego.
    Now to have a body set up to use funds stolen from us by the Govt and given to you lot to use as you see fit, is just too much.
    I’m a former founding member of MAG NZ.
    We started life as a protest group against the Govt taking further money from us under the auspices of keeping us safer on the roads as us motorcyclists were having more accidents.
    Funny thing is, the basic statement is right.
    Motorcyclists are having more accidents, more than ever before. Um there is a reason for this. Using ACC’s own figures there are now 4 times the number of motorcyclists on the roads today.
    The accident rate had climbed to something approaching 20% more than when the last figures were taken way back in 1978.
    Now though, with FOUR times the number of motorcyclists on the road that 20% is quoted by itself, the fact that there are in fact less than half of the accidents that used to happen when the old accident figures used are corrected for the numbers of motorcycles on the road.
    This is all old hat, but just in case you didn’t know it, this is the case.
    We as a group were shafted, the Govt picked on us first and all other motorists thought yeah right give it to em up the arse, bloody motorcyclists deserve all they get. Some Do!
    We did ask “Who’s Next” at the Bikhoi.
    We did say they’re going to come after you too, but no one was listening.
    The true figure of the number of motorcycles that attended the Bikhoi is over 9900 and that was not counting the many hundreds who like me and friends of mine parked up in the city and walked to Parliament. The minister was absolutely gob smacked to see so many.
    We should not have gone peacefully we should have caused as much disruption as we could have and really made em understand, fuck with us and we’re going to paint your bloody town red!
    That’s not a mistake that will happen next time.
    The group of which you are one was ostensibly made up of bikers and others involved in transport etc.
    Some of us thought seeing the names and knowing the issues that things might be different when you lot got going.
    Imagine our horror when we see this sort of BS coming from your offices.
    The poor barstard who was killed in Drury recently wasn’t wearing a fluro vest, had he been he’d still be bloody dead, you see when other motorists are not looking they don’t see ANYTHING.
    Spend that money wisely, pay for studies into better barriers that will at least afford motorcyclists some protection if they come off, get road side furniture moved/replaced to make the sides of our roads safer. Physically inspect our roads and have the Ministry of Jerks fix the really bad ones. This we’d support you in doing, but vests!
    No Way Nick is going to be the response once again.
    Next time though that is about all that will be said.
    The Actions Will Speak Louder Than Words.

    Sent to mr Phil Wright today after reading this thread.
    It's what needs to be done you lot, get right up em.
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    I can picture it, thousands of fluro vests getting caught in the wind, ripping off and causing traffic hazards all over the country.Happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsasuper View Post
    I can picture it, thousands of fluro vests getting caught in the wind, ripping off and causing traffic hazards all over the country.Happens all the time.
    Correct.
    If the gubbinment's morons want to hand out "free" vests, tell them to look on the sides of the road since there bloody heaps located there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    OK I'm a bit late on this none but has anyone else done this?
    At this stage it is the beginning of research project. For all we know MotoNZ have set up this research to show once and for all that hi-viz will not make any measurable difference to our crash rate and thus other issues such as rider education should be targeted by government.





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    headlights AND Flouro Vests...I already wear a RED jacket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Correct.
    If the gubbinment's morons want to hand out "free" vests, tell them to look on the sides of the road since there bloody heaps located there!
    Hey if they want to hand out free vests thats cool, I sometimes need something to tie onto the loads I tow with the cage
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Moto = More Old Timers Opinions ?

    Sorry, but you nice kiwi sheeple chaps will all obey the government/acc dictators and sure as rain is rain, will all be wearing high vis vests next year.
    I won't.

    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Belligerent bikers in New Zealand? You're dreaming. In the last few years, most motorcycles I see are doing erm...roughly 100k's in 100k zones. Can't say I see a lot of wheelstands these days. Most seem to be WOF'd. Most have headlights on.
    Icing on cake....the hordes of "belligerent" bikers who said "fuck ACC, I'm not paying those exorbent rego's fees....grr !".......are basically being good sheeple who've rolled over and are now err....paying their rego fees.

    Time to invest in floro vests bro
    3 road bikes, one paid rego here. I think that is good value!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Hey if they want to hand out free vests thats cool, I sometimes need something to tie onto the loads I tow with the cage
    I use PNS plastic bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    OK I'm a bit late on this none but has anyone else done this?

    Hello there Phil.
    My name is Mark Casidy.
    I ride motorcycles, my wife also rides, between us we have three bikes in the shed. Two of which are used daily for commuting to and from work.
    It is bad enough that the Govt already takes such a huge whack out of us for Rego.
    Now to have a body set up to use funds stolen from us by the Govt and given to you lot to use as you see fit, is just too much.
    I’m a former founding member of MAG NZ.
    We started life as a protest group against the Govt taking further money from us under the auspices of keeping us safer on the roads as us motorcyclists were having more accidents.
    Funny thing is, the basic statement is right.
    Motorcyclists are having more accidents, more than ever before. Um there is a reason for this. Using ACC’s own figures there are now 4 times the number of motorcyclists on the roads today.
    The accident rate had climbed to something approaching 20% more than when the last figures were taken way back in 1978.
    Now though, with FOUR times the number of motorcyclists on the road that 20% is quoted by itself, the fact that there are in fact less than half of the accidents that used to happen when the old accident figures used are corrected for the numbers of motorcycles on the road.
    This is all old hat, but just in case you didn’t know it, this is the case.
    We as a group were shafted, the Govt picked on us first and all other motorists thought yeah right give it to em up the arse, bloody motorcyclists deserve all they get. Some Do!
    We did ask “Who’s Next” at the Bikhoi.
    We did say they’re going to come after you too, but no one was listening.
    The true figure of the number of motorcycles that attended the Bikhoi is over 9900 and that was not counting the many hundreds who like me and friends of mine parked up in the city and walked to Parliament. The minister was absolutely gob smacked to see so many.
    We should not have gone peacefully we should have caused as much disruption as we could have and really made em understand, fuck with us and we’re going to paint your bloody town red!
    That’s not a mistake that will happen next time.
    The group of which you are one was ostensibly made up of bikers and others involved in transport etc.
    Some of us thought seeing the names and knowing the issues that things might be different when you lot got going.
    Imagine our horror when we see this sort of BS coming from your offices.
    The poor barstard who was killed in Drury recently wasn’t wearing a fluro vest, had he been he’d still be bloody dead, you see when other motorists are not looking they don’t see ANYTHING.
    Spend that money wisely, pay for studies into better barriers that will at least afford motorcyclists some protection if they come off, get road side furniture moved/replaced to make the sides of our roads safer. Physically inspect our roads and have the Ministry of Jerks fix the really bad ones. This we’d support you in doing, but vests!
    No Way Nick is going to be the response once again.
    Next time though that is about all that will be said.
    The Actions Will Speak Louder Than Words.

    Sent to mr Phil Wright today after reading this thread.
    It's what needs to be done you lot, get right up em.
    REALITY IS?
    They are Govt funded, so they are going to toe the Govt 'line'..... If they ignotr Govt (ACC) input and 'requireements'? Their funding, ergo nice little jobs will go down the tubes....
    WELL cover me in butter and wrap me in glad wrap, then call me a cynic!!
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    Doubled posting
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
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    Sent to mr Phil Wright today after reading this thread.
    It's what needs to be done you lot, get right up em.
    Mark, I love you like a brother man, but this email would not even have gotten past the firewall dude.
    Its a govt email sever hosting his mailbox, its swear filtered.

    Take out the the expletives, and resend old pal.

    Love ya take on it but unlike Kiwibiker, the ACC email servers will bin this message without even telling you it happened and Phil will not receive it.

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    Thumbs up

    Done and me ol mate.
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    Good man.

    I think every single group in NZ (MAG, BRONZ, HOGG, etc) should be having more interaction with this council.

    Crush this hi viz foolishness, demand they start adapting the methods of road engineering the Aussies use (no they do NOT take your bends out of the road they just fix all the barriers, signs, shit surfaces, and line of sight issues)
    Better off with HID LEDs being fitted at a subsidized fee (MSL can pay 50% of the cost) than wearing a road workers vest that cant be seen for your windscreen, or your top box/pack racks.....

    Allegedly I was sacked for not following the coms 'rules' (never signed anything so what fuckin rules?)
    They said it was for blogging on Kiwibiker.
    Yet others on that same council still post here too.
    Some say for 'what I posted' on KB, yet other than one mistakenly over detailed post that I edited and cleaned up nothing that was Council Specific was posted on here. I also appologised to them, and was assured no issue.


    They asked me to open the Coro Loop event thread, then GM quotes those posting dates as me breaching the comms plan - THAT is a deliberate setup.

    The progress to date is pathetic.
    Coro Loop at Thames - EPIC fail and HUGE waste of funds.
    30k on 'text DUNG' FFS what a crock! Should do an OIA request to ask how many texts have been received.
    Now they want to to investigate Hi Viz issues, like there is not already 300+ studies out there that cancel each other out!



    I still think its a great concept, but unfortunately its being managed by people who are not willing to stand up to the establishment and say 'Our way NOT your way'


    That's me on this bullshit and I have nothing more to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post

    I still think its a great concept, but unfortunately its being managed by people who are not willing to stand up to the establishment and say 'Our way NOT your way'
    People get enamoured with the importance of their positions while beginning to feel pressure from more important people for whatever agendas. Eventually the week get caught up in it and start acting for a perceived 'greater good'.

    Hardline, uncooperative belligerence would achieve dramatic results quickly. Compliant diplomacy and compromise is a choice for defeat - at cooking-the-frog speed.

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    Studies, proposals, research, ammendmants, investigations, surveys = A fucken great waste of OUR money.
    Where Does this Morgan chap live ? I feel the need to drop a big sloppy turd on his doorstep.

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