Democracy, freedom and the right to vote!

**BoristheBiter** · 2nd December 2011, 13:29

Originally Posted by davereid

LOL do you really think the premises, car, and computer, they have the power to search belong to the cow !

Surely you are only pretending to be that stupid.... this is a leg pull surely...

Yes Boris, its the PEOPLE the law applies to.

The hint is in the word PERSON.

I have underlined it for you, hope it helps.

Power of entry without warrant for inspection
(1)At any reasonable time a SS officer or a SS authorised person may enter and inspect a place without a warrant for the purpose of determining whether or not a person is complying with this Act, regulations made under it, or standards issued under it.
(1)A SS officer or a SS authorised person may stop a vehicle to exercise the power conferred by section 104.

Personal search power
Power to detain and search
(1)In the circumstances described in subsection (2), a SS OFFICER may—
(a)detain a person for as long as is reasonably necessary to carry out a search of that person; and
(b)search the person; and
(c)take possession of any information to which subsection (2) applies.

Duty of persons with knowledge of computer system or other data storage devices to assist access

(1)A person exercising a search power in any place or vehicle or in respect of any other thing may require a specified person to provide access information and other information or assistance that is reasonable and necessary to allow the person exercising the search power to access data held..

But you are talking about the transportation of live animals. So therefore you are actually doing something, not nothing like you keep stating, that requires the correct paperwork and permits.
Just like if you are driving a car, or if you have been out for a days fishing, there are rules and reg's for all to follow and at some time you might be checked, just look at the weigh bridges and all the trucks that get stopped. if you don't want to get stopped don't do these things as it is a condition of these activities that you can be stopped at any time.

The argument you are trying to make is wrong.

Have you not been paying attention to the occupy Dunedin protest? The police will not move them on because it would be against there rights to stop them from protesting. Now how can you say our rights are being taken away.

**oneofsix** · 2nd December 2011, 13:32

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

But you are talking about the transportation of live animals. So therefore you are actually doing something, not nothing like you keep stating, that requires the correct paperwork and permits.
Just like if you are driving a car, or if you have been out for a days fishing, there are rules and reg's for all to follow and at some time you might be checked, just look at the weigh bridges and all the trucks that get stopped. if you don't want to get stopped don't do these things as it is a condition of these activities that you can be stopped at any time.

The argument you are trying to make is wrong.

Have you not been paying attention to the occupy Dunedin protest? The police will not move them on because it would be against there rights to stop them from protesting. Now how can you say our rights are being taken away.

you are not being cooked alive, the water temperature is just a bit warmer than it was before.

**scumdog** · 2nd December 2011, 13:43

Originally Posted by oneofsix

you are not being cooked alive, the water temperature is just a bit warmer than it was before.

And has been doing so for a 100 years or so.

I'll very likely be dead before it get uncomfortable..

**oneofsix** · 2nd December 2011, 13:53

Originally Posted by scumdog

And has been doing so for a 100 years or so.

I'll very likely be dead before it get uncomfortable..

But that's the trick, it doesn't become uncomfortable, you just end up dead. The ones to make it uncomfortable are those that worry about the situation and protest it, they stir up the water and splash it all about. Think of the tadpoles.

**BoristheBiter** · 2nd December 2011, 15:16

Originally Posted by oneofsix

you are not being cooked alive, the water temperature is just a bit warmer than it was before.

I think your heads been cooked.

**scumdog** · 2nd December 2011, 15:46

Originally Posted by oneofsix

But that's the trick, it doesn't become uncomfortable, you just end up dead. The ones to make it uncomfortable are those that worry about the situation and protest it, they stir up the water and splash it all about. Think of the tadpoles.

I've had a vasectomy.

The tadpoles are dead.