Congratulations 48%

[mashman]

Unless you empathise with your workforce how do you know what will keep them happy? Putting in a pool table might work for most but it won't work for all.

I agree, I really do. I'm just saying that I can see how a business would be able to make a non-emotional decision and achieve it's aims... yet too many place don't even go that far... I guess it's classed as a waste of money.

[FROSTY:Me]

My view is perhaps a little simplistic. If we Grow,package,manufacture as much product as possible ourselves. If rather than paying people to sit on their backsides on the dole we paid them to do SOMETHING. If we protect our manufacturing industry and so doing protect the jobs that they sustain then the country can afford the social safety net we have in place to protect those genuinely in need.
Fof gosh dsake isn't that just basic economics 101 Earn more than you spend --Or at the very least earn as much as you spend.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. If we protect our manufacturing industry and so doing protect the jobs that they sustain then the country can afford the social safety net we have in place to protect those genuinely in need.
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Like FFM helmets? So then with the horrendous sales duty put on Shoeis....every cunt buys them off the net instead of in bike shops sort of thing?

[steve_t]

Like FFM helmets? So then with the horrendous sales duty put on Shoeis....every cunt buys them off the net instead of in bike shops sort of thing?

I got my Shoei from Scott at Mr Motorcycles. I don't recall it being that much cheaper from overseas but then again, I don't think I looked that hard... Anyway, Scott was awesome to deal with

[Crasherfromwayback]

I got my Shoei from Scott at Mr Motorcycles. I don't recall it being that much cheaper from overseas but then again, I don't think I looked that hard... Anyway, Scott was awesome to deal with

That's because Scott's a GC that knows his stuff and does indeed look after people. The gap has closed up a bit, but good helmets should be cheaper here in NZ. Cost ACC a lot less in sickness benificary payments for brain injuries if everyone wore good skid lids.

[FROSTY:Me]

Like FFM helmets? So then with the horrendous sales duty put on Shoeis....every cunt buys them off the net instead of in bike shops sort of thing?

Like wet weather gear and work boots and shoes and trains and busses.washing machines. ALL stuff where NZ companies have either folded up or transfered maufacturing overseas.
The number of REAL jobs that have dissapeared is just rediculous.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Like wet weather gear and work boots and shoes and trains and busses.washing machines. ALL stuff where NZ companies have either folded up or transfered maufacturing overseas.
The number of REAL jobs that have dissapeared is just rediculous.

Yeah but it's a tough one mate. We want the min wage put up to $15.00, but trains made in China can be purchased for 1/2 the price, as they pay the fuckers a bowl of rice a week. What do you do??

[scumdog]

Yeah but it's a tough one mate. We want the min wage put up to $15.00, but trains made in China can be purchased for 1/2 the price, as they pay the fuckers a bowl of rice a week. What do you do??

WE get poorer and THEY get richer.

And that's what is happening all over the world.

The third world countries are on the climb and the developed ones are on the slide.

But we like the cheap stuff from the climbing countries.

[Crasherfromwayback]

WE get poorer and THEY get richer.

And that's what is happening all over the world.

The third world countries are on the climb and the developed ones are on the slide.

But we like the cheap stuff from the climbing countries.

Yeah the country its self is getting richer, but the gap between rich and poor is way bigger than ever. And the Labour voters moan about the gap here!

[FROSTY:Me]

Ok again I aint no fancy scientific type but it seems to me that when costing up things like these cheap trains from china that ALL factors be taken into account. By that I mean that by not employing kiwis for the countrys infastructure that we end up paying the now unemployed workers anyway in dole payments or reeducation programs.

[Kickaha]

Like wet weather gear and work boots and shoes and trains and busses.washing machines. ALL stuff where NZ companies have either folded up or transfered maufacturing overseas.
The number of REAL jobs that have dissapeared is just rediculous.

They folded because people don't give a shit where it's made or who it employs they just want "Cheap"

[flyingcrocodile46]

As opposed to the highly enlightened left-leaning voters electing a government in a global recession that was going to spend, spend, spend and reduce their tax base by taking GST off fresh fruit and vegetables? If indeed those same enlightened and erudite left-leaning folks could have been bothered going to vote.

I'm amazed at the fucked up logic that was used by labour in stating that we shouldn't be selling assets to make our lives easier today, as we were somehow robbing the next generation of those assets.

The stupidity of the voters who listened to them and thought it a much better idea to borrow, borrow, borrow and put that same (next) generation in debt up to their eyeballs before they are even old enough to vote absolutely astounds me.

People should have to demonstrate that they have an IQ over 80 before they are allowed to vote. That would likely see the Labour party disappear completely. Fucktards the lot of them

[FROSTY:Me]

They folded because people don't give a shit where it's made or who it employs they just want "Cheap"

But the gubbiment ALLOWED imported products to become cheaper than locally made. Why NOT susidise F and P or John bull or any of the other now gone offshore companies? better subsidies that pay it anyway in dole payments

[blue rider]

But the gubbiment ALLOWED imported products to become cheaper than locally made. Why NOT susidise F and P or John bull or any of the other now gone offshore companies? better subsidies that pay it anyway in dole payments

because that would be socialism, and that is wrong.

but its capitalism to offshore to cheap labour countries to increase share holder revenue and that is good.
everyone else just has to try harder, and quit whining and whinging, and stop being lazy.....

[Brian d marge]

Hows those schools, Didn’t tell ya during the campaign, and the second thing they do , is to open them up for privatization .....


Go John Go ..... not even a week The darling boy of the monetary fund ...... Yeeehaaaaaa

Stephen