Congratulations 48%

[flyingcrocodile46]

But the gubbiment ALLOWED imported products to become cheaper than locally made. Why NOT susidise F and P or John bull or any of the other now gone offshore companies? better subsidies that pay it anyway in dole payments

The taxpayer subsidised and/or protected NZ businesses by way of import tariffs for decades to little good effect. The local prices were pumped up so high compared to overseas products that what ever benifit taxpayers got by way of wages was taken back from all of us tenfold in the prices we were forced to pay. Hell! We even subsidised the exports of these companies.
Have you ever seen F&P, Fletchers, Winstones, CHH, Tasman, the Apple & Pear board, Fontera etc etc giving the tax payers any discounts or dividends. Hell no! Even our own milk, fruit and vege are too dear for some families to provide for their kids.

All of the above companies became stinking rich by fucking us over (via the business round table and our politicians) Fuck them.

We should be confiscating all of them and selling them to pay our debts.

[rainman]

Hows those schools, Didn’t tell ya during the campaign, and the second thing they do , is to open them up for privatization .....


Go John Go ..... not even a week The darling boy of the monetary fund ...... Yeeehaaaaaa

Yeah, amazing, eh. One of the benefits of not putting up many policies during the campaign and being voted in by a bunch of tribal loyalists is you can do whatever the fuck you want afterwards and the stupid idiots will probably make excuses for you all the while, no matter what you do. And you get good money, great perks, and beemer company cars... Nice work if you can get it.

Oh well, at least the economy will grow strongly... oh, wait. Seems they were mistaken, after all.

[superman]

Hows those schools, Didn’t tell ya during the campaign, and the second thing they do , is to open them up for privatization .....


Go John Go ..... not even a week The darling boy of the monetary fund ...... Yeeehaaaaaa

Stephen

Privatised things are just soooo scary.

It's a right-wing government, right-wing likes privatisation, woop-di-fucking-doo. Anyone who voted right should know that national could pave the way to privatise all sorts. Absolutely no way this government'll end up privatising schools though, especially such a centre-right one. They're getting a hounding for selling 3% of state assets for goodness sake so I hardly think that they'll push it further unless their little plan works out well.

[Brian d marge]

Privatised things are just soooo scary.

It's a right-wing government, right-wing likes privatisation, woop-di-fucking-doo. Anyone who voted right should know that national could pave the way to privatise all sorts. Absolutely no way this government'll end up privatising schools though, especially such a centre-right one. They're getting a hounding for selling 3% of state assets for goodness sake so I hardly think that they'll push it further unless their little plan works out well.

You have no Idea of what you are talking about

Stephen

[superman]

You have no Idea of what you are talking about

Stephen

I'll keep my mouth shut then.

[short-circuit]

I'll keep my mouth shut then.

Watch and learn sonny boy

[scumdog]

Yeah, amazing, eh. One of the benefits of not putting up many policies during the campaign and being voted in by a bunch of tribal loyalists is you can do whatever the fuck you want afterwards and the stupid idiots will probably make excuses for you all the while, no matter what you do. And you get good money, great perks, and beemer company cars... Nice work if you can get it.

Oh well, at least the economy will grow strongly... oh, wait. Seems they were mistaken, after all.

Quite right!
ANY one of the other parties would have done SO much better if they had been voted in eh!
(Tuis moment here in case you believe shit like that)

[BoristheBiter]

You have no Idea of what you are talking about

Stephen

Neither do you, it is an ACT policy for a start.

[imdying]

You have no Idea of what you are talking about

Stephen

Yeah but at least I can understand what he's typing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, amazing, eh. One of the benefits of not putting up many policies during the campaign and being voted in by a bunch of tribal loyalists is you can do whatever the fuck you want afterwards and the stupid idiots will probably make excuses for you all the while, no matter what you do. And you get good money, great perks, and beemer company cars... Nice work if you can get it.

Oh well, at least the economy will grow strongly... oh, wait. Seems they were mistaken, after all.

The funniest thing is what sore losers you guys are.

[Oscar]

Hows those schools, Didn’t tell ya during the campaign, and the second thing they do , is to open them up for privatization .....


Go John Go ..... not even a week The darling boy of the monetary fund ...... Yeeehaaaaaa

Stephen

You were told.
You should have paid attention during the campaign - it's an ACT policy (as Key said "..that's MMP for you..").
Notwithstanding that, it's very similar to the intergrated private school model now operating.

[steve_t]

Oh well, at least the economy will grow strongly... oh, wait. Seems they were mistaken, after all.

Funny that you reference an article but ignore the very first sentence of it

[superman]

You were told.
You should have paid attention during the campaign - it's an ACT policy (as Key said "..that's MMP for you..").
Notwithstanding that, it's very similar to the intergrated private school model now operating.

They had a lovely Stanford University women on Radio NZ this morning talking about these charter schools and their benefits in the USA. They seem to have a larger spread of performance coming out of those schools than regular state schools (mostly due to different laws state by state), but where they have high accountability it really benefits those in poverty.

And these schools are publicly funded, so why on earth are people banging on about privatised schools...

As stated, NZ does have some very close to being defined as charter schools. COPY PASTE:

Well before American charter schools, New Zealand went much further in granting power to individual schools by abolishing all regional school boards and making each public school independent, with local parent and teacher involvement in decision making. Although not called charter schools, each school does have a charter under which it operates with a board of trustees and has a high degree of autonomy.
While since 1989 there is also provision for Designated Special Character schools, thus far only two have been created. (These are not to be confused with 'state integrated' schools—mostly Catholic, and formerly private—that are "integrated" into the public school system, while retaining their proprietor—which are required to have a "special character" in their integration agreement with the Crown that would be preserved by the school's continuance.)

[avgas]

They folded because people don't give a shit where it's made or who it employs they just want "Cheap"

For now.

I used to do lots of freelance work (NZ term is "cashies"), but now my customers are outsourcing to India and Pakistan.
Friend of mine whom did similar noticed the same about a year ago (He is in US). Told me not to worry.
After 12 months the projects were still outstanding, and people suddenly understand the meaning of the term "Quality".

So not the whole world it cheap. And those that are cheap either find quality in what they are buying or buy something else.

I certainly found quality in my KBC that I had not experienced in my Shoei. And I found a lack of quality in Shark........ but I guess everyone is different.

[Brian d marge]

I'll keep my mouth shut then.

no , just tell me "why" its so scary , the pros and cons etc

Stephen