Congratulations 48%

[BoristheBiter]

eerrmm that sound whistling past your ears , is a point you have missed....

Yes Japan is a corrupt government , its openly known and I can deal with it

Never defended it

You on the other hand , still amaze me ...... I can only think that school Cert , changed to scratch and sniff,

Stephen

You're not defending it but you have said on many occasions you would rather be there than here.

Hypocrite is the the first polite word I can think of so i will use that.

See what happens when you think, you become deluded with thoughts of grandeur and the only thing that I can smell is your BS so you must have just sat your exams, but that would be NCEA as school cert went out years ago, but as you are so far behind, living in your granddad times, today's world got up and past you by.

[Brian d marge]

You're not defending it but you have said on many occasions you would rather be there than here.

Hypocrite is the the first polite word I can think of so i will use that.

See what happens when you think, you become deluded with thoughts of grandeur and the only thing that I can smell is your BS so you must have just sat your exams, but that would be NCEA as school cert went out years ago, but as you are so far behind, living in your granddad times, today's world got up and past you by.

Even the first polite word you could think of wasn’t the best one. Nice try keep going...you will get there in the end

Yes I prefer here, ,for a whole myriad of reasons , none of which is to do with the article I posted ,

As for BS

The National government looks set to forge ahead with its controversial state-owned asset sales and has nominated energy companies Solid Energy, Mighty River Power and Genesis as well as Air New Zealand for partial sale.



there ya go , I told you this would happen HOW MANY YEARS AGO ...but then I talk BS , don’t I Boris ......

At what point will you at least face facts , When your ACC is past 600 dollars , Educational fees through the roof ..... Hows that power bill , I WILL be surprised if the new owners start investing in upgrading the existing equipment (stand to be corrected on this )

Well done you fit the original article perfectly.

Stephen

[oneofsix]

At what point will you at least face facts , When your ACC is past 600 dollars , Educational fees through the roof ..... Hows that power bill , I WILL be surprised if the new owners start investing in upgrading the existing equipment (stand to be corrected on this )

Well done you fit the original article perfectly.

Stephen

Yeah I too will be surprised if the money fund shareholders let the new owners invest in upgrades. Look at Telecommunication, it take a Government funded (that's you and I tax payer) drive to invest in fibre and all the shareholder owned companies can do is bitch about how much they can get their hands on, no thought of building the resource they now consider so valuable themselves

[MisterD]

Look at Telecommunication, it take a Government funded (that's you and I tax payer) drive to invest in fibre

Yeah, but that's for the very understandable reason that Networks deliver 80% of their revenue from voice traffic which is 20% (and falling) of what they carry. The people making all the money out of comms are the "Over the tops" - Apple, Google etc. Running a network is a bloody difficult business to make a quid at and sooner or later those over the tops will need to start investing in the infrastructure to carry their products...Facebook as your ISP anyone?

[mashman]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...cience+News%29

There ya go ...

Stephen

I woulda gone for Stockholm Syndrome... but we're a democracy, apparently.

[BoristheBiter]

Even the first polite word you could think of wasn’t the best one. Nice try keep going...you will get there in the end

Yes I prefer here, ,for a whole myriad of reasons , none of which is to do with the article I posted ,

As for BS

The National government looks set to forge ahead with its controversial state-owned asset sales and has nominated energy companies Solid Energy, Mighty River Power and Genesis as well as Air New Zealand for partial sale.



there ya go , I told you this would happen HOW MANY YEARS AGO ...but then I talk BS , don’t I Boris ......

At what point will you at least face facts , When your ACC is past 600 dollars , Educational fees through the roof ..... Hows that power bill , I WILL be surprised if the new owners start investing in upgrading the existing equipment (stand to be corrected on this )

Well done you fit the original article perfectly.

Stephen

OK, how about pompous, pretentious or even supercilious, any of those should do.

You told us this would happen when? Was that when National were elected last term when they said they would privatize state assets?
The nats have never hid the fact they would sell off parts of the SOE's. the only point they made was they would not sell them off in the first term.

So for all your pontificating is even more laughable as all the nat's have/will do is all ready in the public forum.

When are you going to face the fact that it isn't 1970 anymore? Shit changes, you have to move on and grow or get left behind and crash. Greece is the case in point, stayed the same and now can't pay their way. Is that what you want for NZ? lets just rack up massive debts?

You say you stay in Japan not for these reason's so in other words these reasons are not high on you list of priority's so what's your problem?

And for the record I'm not happy about the price rises to ACC, but if i have an accident i am covered for both work and hospital bills.
As for power not much has changed, still have a bill under $80 so can't complain, at least there isn't any nuclear fallout floating around. Hows that working for ya?

[Headbanger]

What people forget is that in the medium and long term not having a good rail network would damn near cripple NZ.

I think the only reason the right hate rail is because Labour bought it back.

Your logic is affected by your bias just like everyone else, so much for big words and academic education.

Anyone with an ounce of brains can understand that in coming years the rail infrastructure will be an asset, But that doesn't mean you congratulate or even pardon the fools that bought it back for so many times more then its worth.

It should have been allowed to fail, and then the assets purchased for what they were worth. It takes an imbecile to divide such a stupid course of action simply into left vs right.

Makes no difference which way they lean, The government of the day should be accountable for their actions, That was our money they wasted, and we as a country suffer for it.

Labour failed New Zealand on many levels, especially during their last 3 years in office, to the extent that people actually noticed how bad they were performing, that is why they lost, and that is why they still have a stigma about them.

[Headbanger]

you have been thinking , I likes that .......

Pop down to Rousseau , also Spooner , I liked him , but if you want to pin point the blame , " the prince " by Mac an Evelli ( spelling ), was one of the first to move the " contract " between us and Him .....it got worse from then ..I feel ....( maybe better ,,,,,then worse ...the french helped a tadge ! )

Still doesn’t help us in this day and age , when , I get stopped and told to " blow on the pie as its thermo nuclear "

Stephen

Seriously, who (apart from yourself) do you think you are fooling?

You might have read a few books, But agreeing with people who are smarter then you and have actual ideas and insights doesn't count for anything.

You have offered nothing, zero, nada apart from negative sniping about NZ and arrogance.

You don't know shit.

[oneofsix]

with genius like these its no wander we are up the creek

The data, researched by Business and Economic Research (Berl), showed that workers once thought to be unskilled or blue collar were actually a vital cog in the economy, particularly the export sector.

Really, gee who would have thought that an economy needs workers at all levels?? Marx perhaps? to name but one of many.

[shrub]

Your logic is affected by your bias just like everyone else, so much for big words and academic education.

Anyone with an ounce of brains can understand that in coming years the rail infrastructure will be an asset, But that doesn't mean you congratulate or even pardon the fools that bought it back for so many times more then its worth.

It should have been allowed to fail, and then the assets purchased for what they were worth. It takes an imbecile to divide such a stupid course of action simply into left vs right.

Makes no difference which way they lean, The government of the day should be accountable for their actions, That was our money they wasted, and we as a country suffer for it.

Labour failed New Zealand on many levels, especially during their last 3 years in office, to the extent that people actually noticed how bad they were performing, that is why they lost, and that is why they still have a stigma about them.

No, my logic is affected by my knowledge which comes from my education. I know it's unfashionable these days to be educated, but over the years I worked out that people who knew about shit had an edge over people who didn't, and the best way I can think of to learn shit is to get an education. It's bloody hard work and hellish expensive, but it works. I am also largely neutral regarding Labour or their actions.

However your logic is influenced very strongly by your bias against Labour and anything they did or didn't do. You believe that the rail network should have been allowed to fail - how is that good for the country given the volume of freight that is carried on the rail network, especially freight that is just not economical to carry by road? How is it good for business if raw materials or stock is stuck in the middle of nowhere because the broken down old engine has died or the tracks have collapsed? Or an export shipment is missed because the boat left because the was late?

If the rail network had been allowed to continue to degenerate we'd have seen more and more trucks on the road - how is that a good thing? When you go for a ride, do you enjoy following an A train up a nice windy hill? Or do you find the damage trucks do to the roads makes riding more enjoyable? And the oil used to run them is a finite resource - why waste oil moving shit around when it can be used for motorcycles, classic cars and warbirds?

And let's assume that Labour hadn't bought it back, and it had slowly degenerated. Would Toll have sold it cheap? Or would they have done the commercially smart thing - strip out what was good and bin the rest. Let's say that day would have happened in 2013 - how would we have paid for it to be purchased and restored? By selling something else? Or how would we have paid for a completely new rail network? Or would we simply have been the only developed nation that had no rail network?

There are two things wrong with buying it when they did for what they did: first it should NEVER have been sold in the first place, and they should have bought it earlier when they could have paid less.

[Brian d marge]

Seriously, who (apart from yourself) do you think you are fooling?

You might have read a few books, But agreeing with people who are smarter then you and have actual ideas and insights doesn't count for anything.

You have offered nothing, zero, nada apart from negative sniping about NZ and arrogance.

You don't know shit.

Looks like I fooled you ,

Spent quite a lot of my own money , back in the eighties , Campaigning against " rogernomics"

The removal of David Carter in my own electorate ,

The travel to wellington and the hotels and all the waiting in the corridors of the Beehive in order to to get meetings

I can sleep soundly , and have EARNED the right to complain , and have also given , a list and ways one should follow for a better society ( IMHO )

You ?
Snip
"You might have read a few books, But agreeing with people who are smarter then you and have actual ideas and insights doesn't count for anything."

Are you for real???? ...Can I just sit back and let you make a fool of yourself take your time , You are doing a damn good job at the moment

Tis a shame I have a meeting at 7.30,,,,I await with baited breath for your next installment

Stephen

oh and its usually about this point , when the undereducated usually say " if you don’t like it you can F off ",,,,,,,,

[Headbanger]

However your logic is influenced very strongly by your bias against Labour and anything they did or didn't do.

Waffle aside, and there is plenty in your post, None of which makes a worthwhile point or discussion, Hell yes I'm biased against our former labour Government, for their failures, which is good grounds to judge any political party on.

National and any other pack of wankers will be held to the same standard, I personally have no issue voting against National or for Labour in the future dependent on performance.

[shrub]

Waffle aside, and there is plenty in your post, None of which makes a worthwhile point or discussion

So you can't answer my questions? Was it because I used too many big words?

[Headbanger]

Looks like I fooled you ,

Spent quite a lot of my own money , back in the eighties , Campaigning against " rogernomics"

The removal of David Carter in my own electorate ,

The travel to wellington and the hotels and all the waiting in the corridors of the Beehive in order to to get meetings

I can sleep soundly , and have EARNED the right to complain , and have also given , a list and ways one should follow for a better society ( IMHO )

You ?
Snip
"You might have read a few books, But agreeing with people who are smarter then you and have actual ideas and insights doesn't count for anything."

Are you for real???? ...Can I just sit back and let you make a fool of yourself take your time , You are doing a damn good job at the moment

Tis a shame I have a meeting at 7.30,,,,I await with baited breath for your next installment

Stephen

oh and its usually about this point , when the undereducated usually say " if you don’t like it you can F off ",,,,,,,,

So, You failed on a grand scale and split?

Sweet.

Looks like rogonomics achieved more then I thought, It not only rescued a failed economy and enabled the country to function again but it got rid of a tosser such as yourself.

Would you like rice with that?

[avgas]

with genius like these its no wander we are up the creek
Really, gee who would have thought that an economy needs workers at all levels?? Marx perhaps? to name but one of many.

Yep. Only a matter of time until the workers are gone and all you have left is immigrated slaves.

Its funny I dreamed last night that I won lotto. In my dream you know what I did........nothing I didn't want to.
Turned into a scary concept to me, what if all the engineers, doctors, nurses, builders, laborers etc suddenly had "enough" money? What would happen if they suddenly said "Fuck it, the country doesn't need me today, and I will only get taxed if I work. I'm going fishing.

Kinda puts the whole "who's in the govt" thing on to a much smaller scale doesn't it. Like arguing what color car to buy in a fuel crisis.