Congratulations 48%

[slowpoke]

Isn't that the whole point of the thread, enjoy it or don't bother reading it. Choice.

I dunno mate, the tangent this thread has gone on is like taking your bike to a mechanic when it won't start. He can give me all the explanations in the world regarding exothermic reactions, and the merits of RON vs MON octane measurement but at the end of the day I just want a practical reason why my bike doesn't go and what I have to do to make it go.

[Brian d marge]

Fucks sake, put some pictures in between the paragraphs, this type of wordsmithing is way to much like a book for us magazine readers.

good point

I shall do that from now

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Hayek is currently in vogue with the American right but for the sake of balance, here is what Paul Krugman (Nobel prize economist) has to say:



"Via Mark Thoma, David Warsh finally says what someone needed to say: Friedrich Hayek is not an important figure in the history of macroeconomics.


These days, you constantly see articles that make it seem as if there was a great debate in the 1930s between Keynes and Hayek, and that this debate has continued through the generations. As Warsh says, nothing like this happened. Hayek essentially made a fool of himself early in the Great Depression, and his ideas vanished from the professional discussion.


So why is his name invoked so much now? Because The Road to Serfdom struck a political chord with the American right, which adopted Hayek as a sort of mascot — and retroactively inflated his role as an economic thinker.



But the Hayek thing is almost entirely about politics rather than economics. Without The Road To Serfdom — and the way that book was used by vested interests to oppose the welfare state — nobody would be talking about his business cycle ideas."

Will read about Caleb when I get a moment.

you have been thinking , I likes that .......

Pop down to Rousseau , also Spooner , I liked him , but if you want to pin point the blame , " the prince " by Mac an Evelli ( spelling ), was one of the first to move the " contract " between us and Him .....it got worse from then ..I feel ....( maybe better ,,,,,then worse ...the french helped a tadge ! )

Still doesn’t help us in this day and age , when , I get stopped and told to " blow on the pie as its thermo nuclear "

Stephen

[Headbanger]

The funniest thing with intellectuals is the amount of (large) words they feel the need to use to get their point across.

They take ten times longer, with at least that much more drivel, to say the same thing a so called (in their eyes) simpleton can say with half the words.

Isn't there a saying "If you can't explain the concept simply then you simply don't understand the concept"

Maybe I just made it up.

wait, It was Einstein, Best I don't try and claim his work.

Anyway, This guy would a like a word http://www.maori.canterbury.ac.nz/people/cooper.shtml


It must be terrible for someone to consider themselves just so damn gifted and clever while the rest of the world looks at them as a twat.

Luckily they are blinded by their own arrogance and self-importance.

[Crasherfromwayback]

, , but there is a certain level of education one is expected to be familiar with , below that .....insecurity reigns

Stephen

I guess so. I've always hung with clever people, as I love to learn new things, I'm hardly scared of intellligence. Crikey, my GF is a Dr. They make you feel pretty ordinary on the scale of smarts!

[oldrider]

Isn't there a saying "If you can't explain the concept simply then you simply don't understand the concept"

Maybe I just made it up.

wait, It was Einstein, Best I don't try and claim his work.

Anyway, This guy would a like a word http://www.maori.canterbury.ac.nz/people/cooper.shtml


It must be terrible for someone to consider themselves just so damn gifted and clever while the rest of the world looks at them as a twat.

Luckily they are blinded by their own arrogance and self-importance.

Plus one for your thoughts on that little spiel!

[Robert Taylor]

Or the right wing politicians who espouse personal responsibility and reject feeding at the trough, yet can't get their snouts in fast enough. Take that Rodney Hide as one of the most blatant examples, a right wing libertarian and a ''man who rejects users'', but he had a lovely old time at the taxpayers expense.

Yes, good example. And the point is no-one has the moral majority in respect of. Left or Right.

[avgas]

Me and misses had a little giggle last night.
Carmel Sepuloni (chick who kicked out Ms Bennett) is actually an ex-flatmate of ours (10 years ago).
She was one of the worse flatmate's we have ever had, consistently stole from us and avoided responsibility like it was the plague.
Her stack of dishes would take up half the kitchen. Her room was trashed all the time (including inspections). She pissed all her money against the wall. She only saw her boy in the weekends (he stayed with grandparents). Getting her to pay rent was a blood-stone scenario.

After 3 months with her we moved out.

We had to laugh. The alternative was crying.
Fingers crossed she has grown up. At 30, with a job as a teacher, with a boy, she hadn't.

[shrub]

The funniest thing with intellectuals is the amount of (large) words they feel the need to use to get their point across.

They take ten times longer, with at least that much more drivel, to say the same thing a so called (in their eyes) simpleton can say with half the words.

Sometimes a long word is the way to describe something - plutocracy is easier than "the super-wealthy run the show and the more money you have; the more power you have". And lot of intellectuals use long words because that's the language they read all day and the language the people they spend their time with use, so why change? "I adjusted my compression and rebound damping" is easier and makes more sense to a biker than "I turned a screw on my suspension and that changed the way the wheels go up and down over bumps and shit".

It's also worth remembering that a lot of academics are crap writers. They know everything there is to know about their subject and the technical stuff like statistics but they're crap writers. I'm reasonably successful in my field because I can write well, but I break out in a sweat and hide under my desk when someone tells me I should use a Pearson product-moment correlation coefficient to more accurately explain how X is influenced by Y but not by Z. As a result I'm a bit of a show pony and I openly admit that a lot of my research is a little thin, but lay people understand what I'm saying and there are plenty of people who know more than me that can do the hard shit.

[shrub]

Me and misses had a little giggle last night.
Carmel Sepuloni (chick who kicked out Ms Bennett) is actually an ex-flatmate of ours (10 years ago).
She was one of the worse flatmate's we have ever had, consistently stole from us and avoided responsibility like it was the plague.
Her stack of dishes would take up half the kitchen. Her room was trashed all the time (including inspections). She pissed all her money against the wall. She only saw her boy in the weekends (he stayed with grandparents). Getting her to pay rent was a blood-stone scenario.

After 3 months with her we moved out.

We had to laugh. The alternative was crying.
Fingers crossed she has grown up. At 30, with a job as a teacher, with a boy, she hadn't.

And that is one of the flaws in the electorate system. People get selected to run for seats because they will appeal to as many of of the great unwashed as possible, so we get retards and shysters in government because people who don't know them like what they are presented with by the spin doctors.

[Headbanger]

I break out in a sweat and hide under my desk when someone tells me I should use a Pearson product-moment correlation coefficient to more accurately explain how X is influenced by Y but not by Z.

ROADHOUSE

[Robert Taylor]

Me and misses had a little giggle last night.
Carmel Sepuloni (chick who kicked out Ms Bennett) is actually an ex-flatmate of ours (10 years ago).
She was one of the worse flatmate's we have ever had, consistently stole from us and avoided responsibility like it was the plague.
Her stack of dishes would take up half the kitchen. Her room was trashed all the time (including inspections). She pissed all her money against the wall. She only saw her boy in the weekends (he stayed with grandparents). Getting her to pay rent was a blood-stone scenario.

After 3 months with her we moved out.

We had to laugh. The alternative was crying.
Fingers crossed she has grown up. At 30, with a job as a teacher, with a boy, she hadn't.

Well qualified to be a Labour MP then!

[avgas]

Well qualified to be a Labour MP then!

Tell you what. Voting for that Adolf dude in the Nazi party is sounding better everyday. At least I know what I am getting from him. With Labour and National all bets are off.

[pete376403]

Godwins? Pity, it was a nice thread.

[BoristheBiter]

Tell you what. Voting for that Adolf dude in the Nazi party is sounding better everyday. At least I know what I am getting from him. With Labour and National all bets are off.

I heard Stalin, Mussolini and Genghis Khan were great leaders to. never heard many complain about them, well not for long anyway.