$30 speeding infringement notice

[Smifffy]

Even Rossi slowed down lately.

[jafar]

Yep, got that - but I believe that you're wrong.

I only have the local cop telling me that, mabey that is just his take on it. Hopefully one of our resident officers on here will clear it up

either way the TA was exceeding the posted limit by 6k in a 50 k area. The 10% rule would seem to be correct.

Most if not all schools have the new electronic signs up now for when they want to drop the limit to 40k when the kids are around. An excellent idea IMHO. It would be a good move on the gubbermints part to do the same for wet weather . Drop the open road limit down to 80k when there is rain or conditions get bad.

[tigertim20]

It would be a good move on the gubbermints part to do the same for wet weather . Drop the open road limit down to 80k when there is rain or conditions get bad.

that would be a great way to ignore the real issue - that our licencing system is a joke and most people cant drive to save themselves

[Virago]

I only have the local cop telling me that, mabey that is just his take on it. Hopefully one of our resident officers on here will clear it up

either way the TA was exceeding the posted limit by 6k in a 50 k area. The 10% rule would seem to be correct...

Yeah, it's quite possible that many cops work on a 10% tolerance, as it is quite compatible with a discretionary 10k tolerance.

Often I reckon the attitude test comes into play. I got pulled over a few weeks ago - 58 in a 50 zone. When asked the obligatory "any reason" question, I apologised for my inattention to my driving - I was let go with a good-natured warning. I'm sure that if I'd got uppity about it, I'd have got the $30 ticket.

[jafar]

that would be a great way to ignore the real issue - that our licencing system is a joke and most people cant drive to save themselves

It would be a move in the right direction. I do tend to agree with you though

[Jantar]

...Most if not all schools have the new electronic signs up now for when they want to drop the limit to 40k when the kids are around. .....

Maybe in your area, but down here I only know of a single school that has this electronic speed sign. There are many schools in 100 kmh areas and I can just imagine the carnage that would occur coming around a corner at 100 kmh and seeing a 40 kmh sign only a few meters ahead with a patrol car right there enforcing it.

[jafar]

Maybe in your area, but down here I only know of a single school that has this electronic speed sign. There are many schools in 100 kmh areas and I can just imagine the carnage that would occur coming around a corner at 100 kmh and seeing a 40 kmh sign only a few meters ahead with a patrol car right there enforcing it.

no different to coming round a corner in a 100k area & finding a school bus unloading kids. Or a road crew working for that matter.

[tigertim20]

Often I reckon the attitude test comes into play. I got pulled over a few weeks ago - 58 in a 50 zone. When asked the obligatory "any reason" question, I apologised for my inattention to my driving - I was let go with a good-natured warning. I'm sure that if I'd got uppity about it, I'd have got the $30 ticket.

regarding the attitude test, I agree. I have ridden away with some warnings that could have been extremely expensive outings had my attitude been different.

Maybe in your area, but down here I only know of a single school that has this electronic speed sign. There are many schools in 100 kmh areas and I can just imagine the carnage that would occur coming around a corner at 100 kmh and seeing a 40 kmh sign only a few meters ahead with a patrol car right there enforcing it.

plenty of warning etc should be enough to make it safe. There is a school up in Blenheim in a 100 (may be an 80) km zone that has the flashing 40k sign. Its far enough away from the school that people have time to slow down safely.

As for someone 'coming round a corner to see a cop car watching the school being dangerous' I imagine that would be somewhat safer, given that they will have slowed down some (if not all) of the way to 40 before panicking, than if they came around the corner at 100 to see 20 kids crossing the street

[SMOKEU]

regarding the attitude test, I agree. I have ridden away with some warnings that could have been extremely expensive outings had my attitude been different.

I've been let away with shit that should have had me lose my license on the spot for 28 days with a subsequent court appearance and at least 3 months loss of license. More than once. It's a shame speed cameras don't use discretion.

[Jantar]

...I imagine that would be somewhat safer, given that they will have slowed down some (if not all) of the way to 40 before panicking, than if they came around the corner at 100 to see 20 kids crossing the street

Most rural schools in 100 kmh areas wouldn't have 20 kids total on their roll. Even for those that do, the school bus stops outside the school gate on the same side of the road as the school, so you wouldn't get 2 kids, let alone 20, crossing the road in front of you.

[tigertim20]

Most rural schools in 100 kmh areas wouldn't have 20 kids total on their roll. Even for those that do, the school bus stops outside the school gate on the same side of the road as the school, so you wouldn't get 2 kids, let alone 20, crossing the road in front of you.

So you agree with my point then?

[Berries]

Most if not all schools have the new electronic signs up now for when they want to drop the limit to 40k when the kids are around. An excellent idea IMHO.

An excellent idea, but rare as hens teeth down south. At $15,000 for the simplest of set ups you are never going to see the majority of schools having a 40km/h speed limit at school times. If we ever go the way of NSW and just have normal signs that tell you it is 40km/h at certain hours then they will all have them.

It would be a good move on the gubbermints part to do the same for wet weather . Drop the open road limit down to 80k when there is rain or conditions get bad.

Hmm. Limited Speed Zones. They have only just managed to get rid of those in the last few years. Define the level of rain, define the exact amount of fog etc etc etc. They don't work. Unless you go for electronic signs which I have seen in fog prone areas overseas. But then see my first point re cost.

[NordieBoy]

School zones ... usually in 50 km areas ... at school start / finish times ... WELL SIGNPOSTED ... with lights ...

Ok. Only one I know of in the Nelson area like that.

[cs363]

I only have the local cop telling me that, mabey that is just his take on it. Hopefully one of our resident officers on here will clear it up

either way the TA was exceeding the posted limit by 6k in a 50 k area. The 10% rule would seem to be correct.

Most if not all schools have the new electronic signs up now for when they want to drop the limit to 40k when the kids are around. An excellent idea IMHO. It would be a good move on the gubbermints part to do the same for wet weather . Drop the open road limit down to 80k when there is rain or conditions get bad.

Yeah, it's quite possible that many cops work on a 10% tolerance, as it is quite compatible with a discretionary 10k tolerance.

Often I reckon the attitude test comes into play. I got pulled over a few weeks ago - 58 in a 50 zone. When asked the obligatory "any reason" question, I apologised for my inattention to my driving - I was let go with a good-natured warning. I'm sure that if I'd got uppity about it, I'd have got the $30 ticket.

The official word: (http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/...rcement-guide/)

6. Use of discretion

Police must apply a consistent approach to the enforcement of speeding offences in order to achieve reductions in road trauma and to ensure that our actions are fair and transparent.


A consistent approach enables Police to recognise reasonable variations in speedometer accuracy across the public national vehicle fleet, while providing motorists with certainty of outcome should they drive at inappropriate or excessive speeds. The following principles apply, other than in exceptional circumstances:

Drivers detected at a speed of 11km/h or more above the appropriate speed limit must be issued with the appropriate infringement notice or summons.
Drivers of heavy motor vehicles detected at a speed of 6km/h or more above the appropriate speed limit must be issued with the appropriate infringement notice or summons.
Drivers of vehicles towing light trailers detected at a speed of 6km/h or more above the applicable speed limit must be issued with an appropriate infringement notice or summons.
Drivers of vehicles detected within school zones at a speed of 5km/h or more above the applicable speed limit must be issued with the appropriate infringement notice or summons.
Drivers of any vehicles exceeding the speed limit by less than these stated thresholds may be issued with an infringement notice if their speed presents a risk to public safety in the prevailing circumstances.
These principles do not constitute a mandate for drivers to exceed the speed limit. In many circumstances exceeding the speed limit by any amount will pose road safety risks.

[PrincessBandit]

I admit I was exceeding the posted speed limit by 6kmh...... I am simply questioning the tolerance in speed limits.

Nah bro, they just know who you are and show you the same respect that you have for "the pigs".