$30 speeding infringement notice

**caspernz** · 12th December 2011, 17:16

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

6kmh over the speed limit in good weather conditions on a good road with good visibility shouldn't be a crime. So back the point of my original post, does anyone here know what the actual tolerance for speeding is?

I've seen in the media that on public holidays the speeding tolerance is reduced to 5kmh, but then what is the original tolerance before that?

There is no tolerance, it's about officers' discretion. Might be a school zone you got stung in? Those zones you are normally only given 4 kmh discretion. Yep, got one of them in the mail a year or so back myself. No demerits, but still that $30 annoyed me as well.

**jafar** · 12th December 2011, 17:35

ok some have come back & told us all what a

officer can & cannot do...... does the same hold true for the camera vans that litter our roads ?? is there's an 11 km tolerance too?? Or are they operating to the 10% as I suggested??
As the TA was fined for 56k in a 50k area by a speed camera in a van, I'd suggest that it does

**jafar** · 12th December 2011, 18:40

Originally Posted by Berries

Hmm. Limited Speed Zones. They have only just managed to get rid of those in the last few years. Define the level of rain, define the exact amount of fog etc etc etc. They don't work. Unless you go for electronic signs which I have seen in fog prone areas overseas. But then see my first point re cost.

1 life saved = ????

**cs363** · 12th December 2011, 18:55

Originally Posted by jafar

ok some have come back & told us all what a

officer can & cannot do...... does the same hold true for the camera vans that litter our roads ?? is there's an 11 km tolerance too?? Or are they operating to the 10% as I suggested??
As the TA was fined for 56k in a 50k area by a speed camera in a van, I'd suggest that it does

I can't find the info now, but I believe the cameras preset limit (the point at which it will trigger) is based on covert speed surveys done in the area where the camera will or does operate, as well as historical information concerning the operational area. As the cameras were originally sited in areas where speed had been a significant factor in crashes, (though now that has been widened to the cover-all of "areas where there is an obvious road safety risk") the trigger point could vary from zero tolerance to quite possibly above the 10 Km/h discretionary margin.

Anecdotally I'm not aware of many (if any) people getting speed camera tickets at marginal amounts above the speed limit either, and the old (film) cameras were limited to (from memory) 650 photos per roll of film, so that would tend to reinforce the above, as a speed camera on a busy road in Auckland for instance would soon run out of film if pinging people who were marginally over the limit.
However, with the new digital cameras I would imagine the photo storage is much greater which may have allowed a lower tolerance.

Perhaps a friendly someone on the 'inside' could clear this up?

**MSTRS:Me** · 13th December 2011, 08:08

Originally Posted by cs363

I can't find the info now, but I believe the cameras preset limit (the point at which it will trigger) is based on covert speed surveys done in the area where the camera will or does operate, as well as historical information concerning the operational area.

You're right. Originally, camera trigger speeds were set to the ersatz natural speed on any given road. That is, the speed that 'most' traffic travelled at, regardless of what the limit was.
Do not be surprised if that trigger speed is gradually being reduced...either, as the average higher speed drops or, as a device to force that drop.