What a great feeling - quitting my job

[yungatart]

When I saw your post about not being able to find work for a year I assumed you'd been unemployed for that time.

I could offer further input if you like? Ideas on living on less money etc.

I told you you had no idea..

I could see your ideas and raise you another 1000. I am the master (mistress) on living on less, I learned it at my mother's knee.

[Edbear]

I told you you had no idea..

I could see your ideas and raise you another 1000. I am the master (mistress) on living on less, I learned it at my mother's knee.

I don't think I've ever earned more than 27k a year. Hoping to change that with the business. I think my last year's income was 17k.

Wifey earns a lot more now than I do but that's only in the last couple of years.

Somehow we've pretty much got all we need including a new car. We don't waste, (well not much), money though.

[kiwifruit]

I told you you had no idea..

You never expanded though. Just told me I was wrong.

I could see your ideas and raise you another 1000.

It's not a competition. I'm sure I have some ideas you'd never think of. You'd think of things i'd never think of!
Other people would have ideas neither you or I would ever think of.

Do you see my point? Do you want to hear other people's ideas or not?

[MSTRS:Me]

Good advice for someone who has no job. And is prepared to be screwed over by Winz, going on and off the dole.
I, however, do have a job (one of those small businesses you mentioned). It does not pay the bills anymore. Hence my search.

When I saw your post about not being able to find work for a year I assumed you'd been unemployed for that time.

I could offer further input if you like? Ideas on living on less money etc.

I assumed that my post above was clear enough...
And I also am a past master at living on the smell of an oily rag. However, the rag is running out of smell.

[kiwifruit]

I assumed that my post above was clear enough...
And I also am a past master at living on the smell of an oily rag. However, the rag is running out of smell.

You can use that rag to soak up oil drips from my ducati if it gets to that stage.

[MSTRS:Me]

You can use that rag to soak up oil drips from my ducati if it gets to that stage.

I am not worthy...

Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding...we are not destitute, or about to be turfed out by the bank etc. We are just sick of having to struggle to make ends meet, with a lifestyle that is fairly limited by many peoples' standards. We'd like to improve that situation.
But Lotto isn't working, and a job with a net improvement in income isn't happening either.

Heard of the time/money equation?

[avgas]

Roger McRae, McConnell Dowell.

Peter Maire, Navman.

Just a couple of chaps I've worked for.

Was Roger a lollipop guy or a shovel guy?
Likewise who was Peter's boss @ Talon again?
Let me repeat......"Give me 1 CEO who climbed from the bottom up"

[jrandom]

Was Roger a lollipop guy or a shovel guy?

Shovel. Not that I know for sure that he's never driven a lollipop. I'll ask him. Heh.

Edit: And he's not the only one. I was talking to another senior construction industry manager t'other day. He started out with the company 27 years ago as a labourer and operator. Now he goes to black-tie functions and accepts engineering industry awards in between jet-setting around the Pacific sorting things out at major infrastructure projects.

People who hold lollipops go on to hold... many things.

Likewise who was Peter's boss @ Talon again?

Starting a company in your garage and going through three bankruptcies before you get anywhere definitely counts as climbing up from the bottom, man. Taking a minimum-wage job for an existing company isn't the only route.

[avgas]

And there we have it. The young are easily employed because they know everything.

So all you people on here banging on about how 'easy' it is to get a job, enjoy it while you can. Soon you'll have responsibilities outside of work, you'll wonder where your forties went and you'll become a highly experienced, know-nothing unemployable yob.

Just to turn things towards a more positive light, and stop the shit slinging....
Lets just start of with me saying - your right it is hard to get a job. But to put things in perspective.

If its hard, then therefore it will require more effort. I have noticed it is hard lately in my applications. So I have become more resolute.

Back in the day I would get quite depressed if I got turned down from a job, but now I have changed my attitude a little. I got turned down by 2 jobs today alone........but on the flip side I have an interview on monday.

Its a numbers game man, you have to make your number bigger. If 700 people are applying for 1 job, make sure you apply to 100 jobs and increase your odds.
Think of applying for jobs like buying a lotto ticket. Not many people get a job, so you have to get as many tickets in there as you can. Spam the shit out of every company in NZ saying your wanting work.
Until you do that, your simply 1 out of 1,000,000. Times have changed, we have to change with them.

[avgas]

Starting a company in your garage and going through three bankruptcies before you get anywhere definitely counts as climbing up from the bottom, man. Taking a minimum-wage job for an existing company isn't the only route.

Never said it was.......if you go back - my comment was against the adage "Get your foot in the door", which to be frank doesn't fit well with NZ employers as a whole.
They are hiring you to fix one of their problems, nothing more. In fact many don't give a rats arse if you have ambition. I know this as I have lost jobs by telling them how ambitious I am for working for them and progressing through the company.
In many situations they want a robot. They feed you instruction, you do work.

I wasn't really trying to pull punches at great firms like Navman and MacDow (whom my dad currently works for). But fact of the matter is these companies have some fantastic employees who will never be CEO. In fact I would no be supprised if the CEO of both come from overseas next time.

Foot in the door is now the exception rather than the rule. But I suspect you knew this already according to your (and mine) job histories.

[caspernz]

Maybe I'm prejudiced in my opinion, but to me the various posters have the same outlook....if you think you can you can....whether it be positive or negative. Apply any number of cliches you like to follow this up.

[mashman]

No? That's more or less what my wife wants to do. She earns nearly twice what I do, but is REALLY unhappy. Basic problem is that last year we went on holiday for a week or so with one of her team (of 4) who she was good mates with, and living with her for that time she found out what a selfish bitch this woman really is (with a little bit of eye-opening help from me...) Since then, this bitch has very cunningly and subtly undermined her, made her look bad, dumped work on her, etc. Her boss doesn't recognise this is going on because he's too busy being an Ambitious Arsehole, and is on her case all the time. Her health hasn't been the best as a result (high blood pressure, weight gain) and she's so unhappy she could just walk out at any second. This really tells the tale, as she's VERY conscientious and responsible. Every other day she asks, "Can I quit now?" I'd love to say yes, but we've a whole lot of expensive house renovations to do (leaky cladding, and it's outside the 20-year limit, so no gummint help. I'd also like to just burn the house to the ground, but she won't let me).
Hopefully, with my meagre-ish pay rise, we might be able to scrape by if she can find a part-time job, but it's unlikely. What's more likely is she will get really ill and have to quit anyway...

That suckin fucks man. All the best to the missus.

Apparently it's not personal

[mashman]

NZ, BAU capital of the world... these chicken bites are pretty decent though.

[Oakie]

Really odd hearing about 700 applicants. I'd be freakin' happy to get 7 for each job I advertise. Then again, support work for the intellectually disabled isn't everyone's cup of tea. I'm picking it'll become more popular early next year though when the new sleepover rates are paid. Presently a full time 'House Coordinator' at ours working about 35 / 38 hours over 4 days and sleeping over 3 nights one week and 4 the next earns about $40k per annum. Those who care to pick up the odd casual shift as well can comfortably earn about $46k. Our highest earning person over the last 12 months earned $55k without overworking herself. New rates now legislated means these will all rise by about $4600 next year and as the new rates work their way through to the fully legislated amount (minimum wage) in 2 years we're going to have the odd situation where most of our full time support workers will be earning more than their managers at about $55k basic.

[MSTRS:Me]

Its a numbers game man, you have to make your number bigger. If 700 people are applying for 1 job, make sure you apply to 100 jobs and increase your odds.

It is. But at the same time, there has to be 100 advertised jobs that require a person with one's particular qualifications (be they experience or a bit of paper).
Let's see - If I had degrees in engineering, social work and soil science, a bar manager's licence, every driving licence class known to man, was a plumber, mechanic and electrician by trade, had worked in forestry, roading, retail, IT and as a deckhand on a fishing boat - then there might have been 50 jobs in the last year that I may have been a qualified applicant.
Sure, there is the whole of the rest of the country to consider, but we really don't fancy moving elsewhere. Not when there are still options...