Stoppy tyre pressures?

**haydes55** · 29th January 2012, 23:22

Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake

yeah bro,
took my insurance almost two months to sort my bike out after it was stolen and written off,
and it was a clean cut write off.
Just takes time.

Just insurers being tossers

Instead of spending millions advertising their insurance to be most trusted blah blah blah. Why not pay out people in reasonable times, an insurer who pays out as soon as they have all the info will be very popular.

**DEATH_INC.** · 30th January 2012, 07:34

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Basically if you need advice on how to do a wheely or a stoppie you shouldnt be doing them

WTF?

Get out there and do it, that's how we learnt. There's nothing wrong with asking for a few tips tho....

**haydes55** · 30th January 2012, 10:04

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

WTF?

Get out there and do it, that's how we learnt. There's nothing wrong with asking for a few tips tho....

Basically was asking "hey stoppies look cool I might give that a try! I don't want to land straight on my face wonder if there's anything I should know?"

What I have learnt is I'm going to buy a shitty unregistered bike as a practice bike

**Drew** · 30th January 2012, 12:20

Originally Posted by haydes55

Basically was asking "hey stoppies look cool I might give that a try! I don't want to land straight on my face wonder if there's anything I should know?"

What I have learnt is I'm going to buy a shitty unregistered bike as a practice bike

Ask the insurance company if you can buy back the Hyobag. If ya get it cheap enough, wreckers are full of them to get bits for making it ridable.

**haydes55** · 30th January 2012, 12:55

Originally Posted by Drew

Ask the insurance company if you can buy back the Hyobag. If ya get it cheap enough, wreckers are full of them to get bits for making it ridable.

Bent forks and frame apparently. Wouldn't be worth the hassle. Always plenty of 250's in the wreckers yards

**Drew** · 30th January 2012, 13:12

Originally Posted by haydes55

Bent forks and frame apparently. Wouldn't be worth the hassle. Always plenty of 250's in the wreckers yards

Problem with 250 bikes, is that the two stroke race reps were the only ones to come out with decent suspension and brakes.

The thing that will send you sliding down the road on yer face whilst trying to do stoppies most, is the forks bottoming out. Because the tyre has to cope with a suden jolt of extra pressure.

Whatever you get, needs new fork oil, and good compression damping. Once ya have that, almost anything will stoppie.

**haydes55** · 30th January 2012, 16:46

Originally Posted by Drew

almost anything will stoppie.

You mean almost any sport or dirt style bike will stoppy. Would love to see you try do a stoppy on any cruiser haha.

**Drew** · 31st January 2012, 05:48

Originally Posted by haydes55

You mean almost any sport or dirt style bike will stoppy. Would love to see you try do a stoppy on any cruiser haha.

I don't do stoppies on anything except motard type bikes. I've worn a bike to the back of the head when I cocked it up.

**haydes55** · 31st January 2012, 16:05

Originally Posted by Drew

I don't do stoppies on anything except motard type bikes. I've worn a bike to the back of the head when I cocked it up.

That doesn't sound fun! My new bike is going to be a motard style 250, maybe 2stroke or 4 stroke depending on whats available.... Still waiting on insurance (they sent me a letter to the wrong address.... Even though in my claim form I told them my address).

**Drew** · 31st January 2012, 17:32

Originally Posted by haydes55

That doesn't sound fun! My new bike is going to be a motard style 250, maybe 2stroke or 4 stroke depending on whats available.... Still waiting on insurance (they sent me a letter to the wrong address.... Even though in my claim form I told them my address).

Motards are by far the easiest to stoppie.

Harder to wheelie though. Because the suspension has so much travel, and is quite soft. So when you modulate the throttle the balance point moves. The suspension compresses as you gas off, moving the balance point rearward. When you get back on the gas the shock extends and the balance point moves forward. Gotta be silky smooth to get a decent wheelie on them.

Four stroke singles are hardest to loop over though, because shutting the throttle down is like dropping anchor.

**haydes55** · 31st January 2012, 17:37

Originally Posted by Drew

Motards are by far the easiest to stoppie.

Harder to wheelie though. Because the suspension has so much travel, and is quite soft. So when you modulate the throttle the balance point moves. The suspension compresses as you gas off, moving the balance point rearward. When you get back on the gas the shock extends and the balance point moves forward. Gotta be silky smooth to get a decent wheelie on them.

Four stroke singles are hardest to loop over though, because shutting the throttle down is like dropping anchor.

Yea I'm used to a 500cc single 4 stroke with no suspension. I'll stick to doing wheelstands on that when I feel the need haha.

**DEATH_INC.** · 31st January 2012, 19:55

Originally Posted by Drew

Motards are by far the easiest to stoppie.

Harder to wheelie though.

Yep, that's why I have a giggle when people say 'learn to wheelie a dirtbike'
Oh, and SOME cruisers can be made to stoppie....

**haydes55** · 31st January 2012, 20:01

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

Oh, and SOME cruisers can be made to stoppie....

Pics or it didn't happen

**Mooch** · 31st January 2012, 20:17

Stunt team at motogp in philip island where doing long stoppies on a vrod. Hard not to be impressed.

Found the KR1 two stroke easy to do these on including soft touch down. I can't pull a wheelie for my life but stoppies have been easy since the days of riding bmx