Count me in.Originally Posted by TrentNz
I reckon its time for a revolution
whos keen
Don't forget to bring a towel
Count me in.I reckon its time for a revolution
whos keen
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
sweet who else is in.
God's Evil Twin
I'm there... its catered right???
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has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Five days before a critical vote, US senators are abandoning an anti-piracy bill after an outpouring of online opposition to tinkering with internet freedoms.
Senate Democratic leaders still plan to vote on Tuesday on taking up the Protect International Property Act and supporters are scrambling to make changes before then to answer some of the critics, but it is questionable whether they have the 60 votes needed.
Half a dozen of the 40 original co-sponsors of what is known as the PIPA bill withdrew their support on Wednesday amid a one-day protest blackout by Wikipedia and other web giants and a flood of emails to Capitol Hill offices that at times doubled normal volumes.
More than seven million signed a petition on Google saying the Senate bill and its counterpart in the House would censor the web and impose burdensome regulations on US businesses.
"The overwhelming input I've received from New Hampshire citizens makes it clear there are many legitimate concerns that deserve further consideration before Congress moves forward with this legislation," said Republican Senator Kelly Ayotte, one of the politicians who pulled back her support of the bill.
Others included Republicans Orrin Hatch of Utah, Marco Rubio of Florida, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, Roy Blunt of Missouri and John Boozman of Arkansas.
Nearly all cited the earful they were getting from constituents.
"I can say, with all honesty, that the feedback I received from Arkansans has been overwhelmingly in opposition to the Senate bill in its current form," Boozman said.
Several Democratic co-sponsors also now say they oppose the bill as it is written.
Democrat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has resisted suggestions he put off the Tuesday vote.
Reid and the bill's main sponsor, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy said it was too important to delay action on legislation aimed at combating the billions of dollars US content creators and companies lose to foreign copyright violators and counterfeiters every year.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky on Thursday urged Democrats to shelve the bill for now, saying serious issues with the measure should be resolved before "prematurely" bringing it to the floor.
The Senate bill, and the parallel Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the House, would allow the Justice Department and copyright holders to seek court orders against foreign websites that steal from American content creators.
It would bar advertising networks and payment facilitators such as credit card companies from doing business with the offending websites.
Forum whore
We have ties to America, ties that obviously include extradition treaties (dating from 1970). Why, if these people have committed a crime, or there is enough evidence to suggest that they have indeed broken laws should our government not assist? Even if you don't agree with the offence(s), there are copyright laws in place (even without PIPA and SOPA) that apparently have been broken.
So we have established extradition treaties with America. The site owners have apparently broken the law (maybe in a similar way to Napster). Why shouldn't they be prosecuted? What has it got to do with National?
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Absolutely correct
I'm cynical about the large businesses in America driving this legislation but these arrests are under existing law, not the new laws. And the guys arrested aren't innocent choirboys - they are making a heap of money out of piracy. I'll bet that money isn't going to the creators of the music, movies etc. What's more, they've only been arrested, they have rights to resist extradition.
More importantly, this has zero to do with political parties. The Greens as a government would have to watch due process in silence too. If we didn't have extradition treaties criminals could escape to another country and thumb their noses. How'd we feel if the 16 yr old boy from Turangi went to Oz and couldn't be arrested?
Weekend cruiser
Yo it's illegal for women to drive in Saudi Arabia, think we should hand over our wimmin?
The point is that internet copyright laws are a fucking shambles, are pretty much run by the entertainment industry and whoever else has cash. In fact US politics are a fucking shambles, why should we bow to what they say?
The US is just flexing while we give them a sweaty backrub.
What does it have to do with National or anyone in parliament? None of those pussies have said a damn thing about it. They haven't stopped and thought maybe this is something that could be up for discussion, they haven't released any details that it was even happening, despite it being started in early 2011.
Was it even lodged with Interpol?
Forum whore
Incorrect comparison. Some of the servers the pirated software was stored on were in America (apparently). So therefore if one of our 'wimmin' was to drive in Saudi Arabia then they would be subject to their laws. Even if it was their car, brought in from NZ. They are driving on their soil.
Come on man, the police/government were first contacted by the FBI in 2011 and asked for assistance. The arrests have only just happened now. Since when do the police/government ever announce a covert operation before they make arrests?
Last edited by onearmedbandit; 20th January 2012 at 21:51.
Weekend cruiser
Certainly not in election year.
Anyway, maybe National's not entirely at fault here but it still feels like shit that's going on against people in this country is going down too quietly.
At least in response to the OP, I still think we should definitely be worried.
Forum whore
Well kind of certainly not at all, hence the term 'covert'. But regardless, yes I agree with the OP, despite my first post in this thread. But it seems, for now at least, SOPA and PIPA will not see the light of day in their initially proposed form.
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Despite the hype this isn't about the American behemoth throwing its weight around in the world making small countries cower.
For that, you have to look to our previous Labour administration which allowed/instructed the NZ police to place buses in front of protesters when Chinese President Hu visited:
"Police moved the protesters, and on several occasions, at the request of the Chinese, protesters were blocked from sight by buses."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...jectid=3530487
If NZ is influenced by any nation, it is China with which we have a free trade agreement. If China was implementing internet censorship I'd be really worried.
No wait...??!!
Royal Enfield user
Watch who donate the money the IMF are asking for of late
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
Forum whore
- You're right - I don't think they give a shit about other countries. It's all about internal US control and anything else is just "collateral damage" . That, and the fact that, like NZ (and most other countries), most politicians there really don't have a clue about internet activity, other than what they've been told by their aides and lobbyists. Most probably know how to email and perhaps go on facebook, and that's it - the rest is a big scary world to be controlled and pinned down. It was only intensive lobbying of senators by their electorate that got a lot to change their minds (it's all about the votes....)
New Zealand will be as influenced by other nations as the politicians in charge agree to. That Chinese thing was disgusting, but about on par with a lot of what has been going down over the last few years, under all governments!
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
lets just hope they don't ban porn
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
FUCK SOPA!
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