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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    In other words, they work in some modes but not others, just like I discovered when I had to turn off the functionality that was advertised in big letters on the box before they'd stop crashing.
    No, I'd agree with Mr scracha... I'd never leave an accesspoint to auto-negotiate a channel...

    Do a scan of the surrounding area, find a channel not used, put it on that channel... easy.
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    What's a gigabit swithch and what's it for? Why do I need one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    No, I'd agree with Mr scracha... I'd never leave an accesspoint to auto-negotiate a channel...
    They seem to be working fine with auto channel negotiation. Disabling the N band wireless was what fixed them. Maybe it would've worked if I'd left that on and turned off auto-negotiation, too. I just did what the chap at the shop suggested.

    *shrug*

    Either way, IMHO, it's shithouse that one can buy stuff that doesn't work unless you turn features off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taz View Post
    What's a gigabit swithch and what's it for? Why do I need one?
    Wired computer networks used to run at 10 megabits per second. Now they run at 100. Some of them run at 1000.

    For comparison, your average home broadband connection in NZ hooks up to the local telephone exchange at about 2 megabits per second. And then your transfer speed across to the rest of the internet tends to be an order of magnitude lower than that again.

    Generally you'd only need to be running links at 1000 megabits per second (ie, 1 gigabit) if it was carrying a lot of traffic from a number of devices destined for something much more industrial than a home broadband connection. Like if it was hooking a switch with a couple dozen office PCs hanging off it back into your fibre optic backbone, etc.

    Or if you were linking machines together in a processing cluster to form a home-made supercomputer.

    I'd be interested to know what Usarka's doing in his shed that requires a gigabit switch. I've always suspected him of being some type of super-villain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Wired computer networks used to run at 10 megabits per second.
    And new houses are still being wired by fuckwit electricians who use coax cable everywhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post

    I'd be interested to know what Usarka's doing in his shed that requires a gigabit switch. I've always suspected him of being some type of super-villain.
    Probably the much more mundane task of backing up his terabytes of porn


    Oh...shit not working.
    a) If IT equipment actually worked properly then I'd be out a job.
    b) Even "back in the day". IT stuff didn't do what it said on the Tin.
    c) Lotsa wifi stuff doesn't work with other wifi stuff. Some Acer aspires don't like wifi channel 13. Some Atheros wifi cards don't work with some TP-Link. As an example, many moons ago I once spent 2 hours trying to get a Linksys N router (which was the shiz back in the day) working with it's companion Linksys N PCI card.....phoned Linksys and had to revert it to 20mhz (144Mbps not 300). Now that's a manufacturers own kit not working with erm...their own kit. Incidentally...it caused a blue screen of death on any XP notebook using a certain D-link PCMCIA wifi card until we updated the drivers.
    d) "bloke in shop" was correct in that by reverting back to ye olde "g" type network, then you're more likely to resolve compatibility issues. Doubt he'd want hassle of investigating multitude of reasons for it. I'm just saying that the real issue was more likely to be wifi interference (other wifi kit, dect phones, smart power meters, CCTV cameras, etc). Auto channel negotiation doesn't really work well on unmanaged wifi kit, regardless of the brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    "bloke in shop" was correct in that by reverting back to ye olde "g" type network, then you're more likely to resolve compatibility issues. Doubt he'd want hassle of investigating multitude of reasons for it.
    Well, I was just happy to get the goddamn pieces of crap working on some level so that all the VIPs with laptops and iPhones would be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Wired computer networks used to run at 10 megabits per second. Now they run at 100. Some of them run at 1000.

    For comparison, your average home broadband connection in NZ hooks up to the local telephone exchange at about 2 megabits per second. And then your transfer speed across to the rest of the internet tends to be an order of magnitude lower than that again.

    Generally you'd only need to be running links at 1000 megabits per second (ie, 1 gigabit) if it was carrying a lot of traffic from a number of devices destined for something much more industrial than a home broadband connection. Like if it was hooking a switch with a couple dozen office PCs hanging off it back into your fibre optic backbone, etc.

    Or if you were linking machines together in a processing cluster to form a home-made supercomputer.

    I'd be interested to know what Usarka's doing in his shed that requires a gigabit switch. I've always suspected him of being some type of super-villain.
    I can't speak for Usarka but I also use gig etherweb & I much enjoy the speed it provides moving my files from comp to comp (I am also impatient tho), we have 3 active & I do tend to move alot of files some quite big in size, the speed really does start to pay off.
    Also HD streaming works much better over gig, the playback is similar to all speeds, but it's when you start to fast forward & rewind HD 1080p content that you notice the advantage of having it over gig etherweb.
    Gig etherweb also allows the wired comp to provide my wireless comps with the full N wireless speeds 100Mbit connections obviously max out at the theoretical 100Mbit while the gig connection can provide the full standard theoretical 300Mbit (or max of 600Mbit)

    So gig does have its uses, from impatience, to large or many file transfers, to full capability HD streaming, to full speed wired-wireless connection.

    Also avg interweb speed is 4-6Mbit
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    Finally i got off my arse and splashed out on a dual band Netgear DGND3700 / N600.

    The first thing I noticed is the login time for my PC - it used to sit there pontificating after I log in for up to 90 seconds, now it's sweet as a nun's. And here I was thinking about buying an SSD or some stupid carry on. And the gigabit lan connection is awesomness in a box.

    Cheers for the suggestions all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    The first thing I noticed is the login time for my PC - it used to sit there pontificating after I log in for up to 90 seconds, now it's sweet as a nun's.
    If it's only at home, I'd suggest a static IP. Network drive connections are usually the biggest culprit around logging in (or roaming profiles), as the computer will try to connect, and if it can't, it waits for a while before failing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    And new houses are still being wired by fuckwit electricians who use coax cable everywhere.
    You're not the first person I've heard say that either!

    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    a) If IT equipment actually worked properly then I'd be out a job.
    I knew it! A conspiracy!

    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    c) Lotsa wifi stuff doesn't work with other wifi stuff.
    Yep, been there done that ....and worse still, most of the troubleshooting 'guides' and 'help' centre phone numbers that come with stuff don't have the answers. Those are usually found on the interwebs, ...if you can connect - and if you only have access to one computer, you're not going to be able to fix it straight away and that's if it is even fixable. Aaargh!

    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    d) The real issue was more likely to be wifi interference ( dect phones).
    I read in some electronics magazine recently (don't ask which, it was just waiting room fodder) that cordless phones are the biggest cause of problems with wireless networks, which makes sense when you stop and think how many are in use these days, and I bet a lot of people wouldn't even think to check frequencies when buying said stuff.

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