Mini-motard for bucket racing?

[Yow Ling]

Can I race this in buckets?

Yup of course

[Kendog]

Are these issues the same as the ones experienced by the other MNZ classes

From what I know, it is basically the same issues.

[Drew]

From what I know, it is basically the same issues.

Near as I can tell, yeah it's the same. Funny thing though, Bruce Telford well and truely proved that riding a motard on tarmac is faster with a knee out than a foot.

So to get around the bar rules, a set of clip ons and your motard is now legal for formula racing again...And faster.

[avgas]

Yup of course

What about this?

[Drew]

What about this?

If it's 150cc or smaller, yip.

[jasonu]

Can of worms and an opener. Horse and open gate. Now they have been allowed to participate it will be hard to get rid of them.
The biggest mistake is that these machines have been allowed to compete BEFORE their legality has been confirmed. 155cc and 'competition' motors. I know the MNZ have been totally fucking useless in this situation yet they continue to reap the benefits of the sizeable entry fee and license cash Buckets brings in. Someone said there were plenty of crashes involving these pit bikes probably due to the motard style (which IIRC was outlawed in other classes (F3) in the past) and one rider got a ride in an ambulance. Maybe after a nasty pile up happens someone from the MNZ might get of their fat arse and actually come to a meeting for a look and make some sort of decision.
From what I have seen and heard the whole thing stems from some importer trying to sell these shitboxes and Buckets is what they are closest to being illegible for.

[Drew]

Can of worms and an opener. Horse and open gate. Now they have been allowed to participate it will be hard to get rid of them.
The biggest mistake is that these machines have been allowed to compete BEFORE their legality has been confirmed. 155cc and 'competition' motors. I know the MNZ have been totally fucking useless in this situation yet they continue to reap the benefits of the sizeable cash Buckets brings in. Someone said there were plenty of crashes involving these pit bikes probably due to the motard style (which IIRC was outlawed in other classes (F3) in the past) and one rider got a ride in an ambulance. Maybe after a nasty pile up happens someone from the MNZ might get of their fat arse and actually come to a meeting for a look and make some sort of decision.
From what I have seen and heard the whole thing stems from some importer trying to sell these shitboxes and Buckets is what they are closest to being illegible for.

I still don't think they can all be proven to be illegal.

An owner only need say he built the motor from a $200 pit bike he bought, with off the shelf aftermarket non competition bits, and presto, back inside the rules.

[F5 Dave]

What about this?

Will you get to your predictible & moronic point. You don't race, you never will. What are you doing here anyway? Apart from spouting dribble?

[Drew]

Will you get to your predictible & moronic point. You don't race, you never will. What are you doing here anyway? Apart from spouting dribble?

Hey, I haven't raced either yet fuck ya. I'm onto my third bike build though.

[jasonu]

I still don't think they can all be proven to be illegal.

An owner only need say he built the motor from a $200 pit bike he bought, with off the shelf aftermarket non competition bits, and presto, back inside the rules.

Maybe so mate. But IF they (155 Forza) are legal (and I think the 155cc thing will be their biggest hurdle as that is clearly more than the 150cc starting capacity the rules allow for) that should have been proven BEFORE they were allowed on track.
Now there is the issue of motard style riding which, when mixed with conventional road race style riding has been proven dangerous and subsequently outlawed in other MNZ classes.

[F5 Dave]

Hey, I haven't raced either yet fuck ya. I'm onto my third bike build though.

Well you've crashed my bike at a race meet, that's more track action than dribbler time waster. Maybe I'm being harsh, but I'm getting bored of the dude & think he should find a hobby other than practising soccer skills here.

[Drew]

Maybe so mate. But IF they (155 Forza) are legal (and I think the 155cc thing will be their biggest hurdle as that is clearly more than the 150cc starting capacity the rules allow for) that should have been proven BEFORE they were allowed on track.
Now there is the issue of motard style riding which, when mixed with conventional road race style riding has been proven dangerous and subsequently outlawed in other MNZ classes.

I thought the same, but Steve Mossman has just bought and is fucking with a buck, that is an XL125 200 hybrid thing. It comes in a smidge under the over bore limit, and everyone says go for gold. Steve's a thouroughly good bastard, and his bike is slow as all fuck, and if it were a point of contention he'd fix it, but good for the goose...?

[Drew]

Well you've crashed my bike at a race meet, that's more track action than dribbler time waster. Maybe I'm being harsh, but I'm getting bored of the dude & think he should find a hobby other than practising soccer skills here.

I've ridden three different buckets now, and still have a 100% crash/ride rate. Higher if you consider that I put Ren's heap of shit down twice at the endurance.

[koba]

I thought the same, but Steve Mossman has just bought and is fucking with a buck, that is an XL125 200 hybrid thing. It comes in a smidge under the over bore limit, and everyone says go for gold. Steve's a thouroughly good bastard, and his bike is slow as all fuck, and if it were a point of contention he'd fix it, but good for the goose...?

I'd say that has started as a 125, thus under 150, whaddya think?

[Drew]

I'd say that has started as a 125, thus under 150, whaddya think?

The rule specifically says "rebore". The sleeve in Steve's bike is as factory.