Broadband or dialup?

**Ocean1** · 27th December 2011, 09:28

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Broadband, between 6-10mbps
Why it isn't more consistent, I do not know. 'tis fast a fuck in my books anyway.

Mine was 2Mbps last night, now it's 48. I'm sure there's a reason for the inconsistency, but it's probably not a very good one.

**slofox** · 27th December 2011, 10:15

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1670196504.png

This is at work. Less than a third of the home system. And yet there is little perceived difference between website load times.

Which just goes to show, even the biggest pipe in the world doesn't help if you are only running the garden hose into it.

**steve_t** · 27th December 2011, 11:31

Originally Posted by slofox

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1670196504.png

This is at work. Less than a third of the home system. And yet there is little perceived difference between website load times.

Which just goes to show, even the biggest pipe in the world doesn't help if you are only running the garden hose into it.

Probably a similar ping time

**slofox** · 27th December 2011, 11:35

Originally Posted by steve_t

Probably a similar ping time

Actually, that is true come to think of it - both in the 30's IIRC. 32ms here and I'm pretty sure it was about that at home too.

**husaberg** · 27th December 2011, 13:43

The download speed is 56Mbps I remember our old place was at time 18-26 kbs as well as being unreliable.
it is still slow compared to work though.

We had Farmside prior. but they were always changing the rules and when i questioned them about it they said tough. "we reserve the right to change rule when ever we feel like". I said great my contracts up i reserve the right to "tell you to piss off then".
We had a deal for a start that they would do the phone through it .Well it never for us. Or never worked as a few others who had tried it as well.
That was a few years ago though.They got shitty when i said i wasn't paying for that as well. I was without a phone for a month while Telecom and Farmside blamed each other.

Weird thing is Telecom always said broadband wouldn't work were we live then one day we called up and they offered it to us?

we are about 2 km from the cabinet.

**ducatilover** · 28th December 2011, 00:27

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Mine was 2Mbps last night, now it's 48. I'm sure there's a reason for the inconsistency, but it's probably not a very good one.

48???

**offrd** · 29th December 2011, 11:09

As i posted elsewhere..

Broadband has been available for years to 100% of the country, i have installed in the most remote locations!

Can tell anyone that wants to know...

Just because your isp cant help does not mean no one can help.....

We even sent a unit to East Timor with the NZ defense force, worked perfectly...

Here is one http://maps.google.co.nz/?ll=-39.001...h&z=18&vpsrc=6

Another here http://maps.google.co.nz/?ll=-39.004...h&z=19&vpsrc=6

Some of the funny stories i've heard about 2kbps dial up that took the day to download standard email IF you did not get booted off.

Let some american check his hotmail here http://maps.google.co.nz/?ll=-39.277...h&z=17&vpsrc=6 with a 230v inverter and a dish sitting on the ground, he was blown away!

Attachment is sitting in a campground in waipukarau checking my email and setting up systems for the next days installs.

Broadband in NZ aint ever going to be any good. The copper is just sooooo old! any bit of resistance, corrosion, water ingress all degrades the service. I have had huge fights with Chorus over my phone connection and broadband, ended up poor connection one after another and weeks of them trying to finally get it half decent.... I would dump the lot and go wireless if i did not live out of line of site....

One group i worked for at the university of waikato set up their own mesh type setup and we installed solar powered repeaters across the greater waikato, now that worked well! Pic attached of a build in progress that i did for them too...

Both attached, not embedded! lol

**JATZ** · 29th December 2011, 11:17

And the cost is ???
I have looked at satelite BB, but the cost is mental

seriously mental for a decent package

**offrd** · 29th December 2011, 11:31

DON"T tell O S H

**offrd** · 29th December 2011, 11:42

Satellite should be viewed as last option, wireless is cheaper. Depending on your location and line of site to any available POP if you are in sector..... Some satellite providers should not be touched with a barge pole!

Satellite is often more expensive as you rent the gear too or outright buy it. When i got out of installing i gave away about 8 full sets of gear i had lying around, 6 lots - brand new!

http://www.ruralinzone.co.nz/?q=content/plans
http://www.no8wireless.co.nz/
http://www.wirelessnation.co.nz/rural-broadband
http://www.wisprnet.co.nz/main.php

Wireless systems provided by Kordia seem to be full! no more room... Good business opportunity for someone there!

**offrd** · 29th December 2011, 12:03

Originally Posted by JATZ

And the cost is ???
I have looked at satelite BB, but the cost is mental

seriously mental for a decent package

You have to remember that a satellite is a finite resource that costs millions to put up, someone wants to recoup their investment, and then the ips wants to make money, in some cases the isp, leases to another isp so there is two slices out of your monthly!

Reasonable line of site to a neighbor with a point to point solution and shared internet bill would work well if a neighbour has a landline based broadband isp.
One satellite with backbone to many neighbors is possible too....

I think if you got your phone in over the internet via a satellite connection and cut your copper connection, monthly it wont cost much more than it would anyone in town for broadband and phone..... $90 a month for broadband and phone seems to be pretty normal in town...

One satellite install i did ran up 10 gig in the first night, family of Asian's watching internet tv and skyping home, we later shifted them to a wireless solution....

**superman** · 29th December 2011, 12:28

Originally Posted by offrd

You have to remember that a satellite is a finite resource that costs millions to put up, someone wants to recoup their investment, and then the ips wants to make money, in some cases the isp, leases to another isp so there is two slices out of your monthly!

Reasonable line of site to a neighbor with a point to point solution and shared internet bill would work well if a neighbour has a landline based broadband isp.
One satellite with backbone to many neighbors is possible too....

I think if you got your phone in over the internet via a satellite connection and cut your copper connection, monthly it wont cost much more than it would anyone in town for broadband and phone..... $90 a month for broadband and phone seems to be pretty normal in town...

One satellite install i did ran up 10 gig in the first night, family of Asian's watching internet tv and skyping home, we later shifted them to a wireless solution....

Satellite is absolutely terrible. The speed of light is not fast enough to travel the 70,000km so you get absolutely SHIIITE ping. 0.4-0.7 seconds!

Do not consider satellite if you ever want to play games online versing other players, do not consider satellite if you ever want to chat through skype online without a sweet lag.

Useful for downloading though.

**offrd** · 29th December 2011, 12:42

Originally Posted by superman

Satellite is absolutely terrible. The speed of light is not fast enough to travel the 70,000km so you get absolutely SHIIITE ping. 0.4-0.7 seconds!

Do not consider satellite if you ever want to play games online versing other players, do not consider satellite if you ever want to chat through skype online without a sweet lag.

Useful for downloading though.

Latency vs nothing in many cases, its the end users choice... Its not possible to move the farm to the city to get broadband aye...

Gaming on line, get off your butt and go for a motorbike ride! LOL

Now what will the prices for rural fiber be? Few hundred thou to get the fiber past your gate, so lets see... $59.95 a meg should just about cover it! but low latency! LOL

**superman** · 29th December 2011, 13:26

Originally Posted by offrd

Latency vs nothing in many cases, its the end users choice... Its not possible to move the farm to the city to get broadband aye...

Gaming on line, get off your butt and go for a motorbike ride! LOL

Now what will the prices for rural fiber be? Few hundred thou to get the fiber past your gate, so lets see... $59.95 a meg should just about cover it! but low latency! LOL

Low latency is all I want!

I live in rural Auckland, and get about 75ms to the east coast of Aussie. I know the point from me to the exchange will be the slowest, hence why to an Auckland server it's still 54ms. And if the download speed was nice enough to go above 1.3Mbps it would be nice.

But really shouldn't complain, it's all adequate enough at the moment for what I need.

There's no way I'd be gaming on a nice day, then it's the bike! But on a shitty day, it's nice to just sit back and show off my skills or lack thereof.