Broadband or dialup?

**superman** · 29th December 2011, 21:05

Originally Posted by Usarka

Is wired broadband faster than the speed of light?

Define faster.

You get a higher data speed with satellite, but you get a lower latency with a wired connection.

So if I use wired broadband to send a signal to Sydney, the cable transmits at almost the speed of light and the distance to cover is about 2200km.

If I used satellite broadband the signal is at the speed of light but has to travel over 70,000km to reach Sydney, ergo it takes far longer for the signal to reach Sydney. This is why when watching live satellite feeds on the news the reporter and anchors always have a tiny bit less than a second or so delay before responding and talking to eachother. The same happens when you're talking to friends overseas and you happen to get on a satellite connection, there's no way you'll be able to sing together over the phone.

**husaberg** · 29th December 2011, 21:24

Originally Posted by Usarka

Is wired broadband faster than the speed of light?

no but it travels less distance

**thecharmed01** · 29th December 2011, 22:26

ADSL2 here, wouldn't cope on dial up now I'm far too impatient!
I struggle relying on my cellphone LOL

**Oakie** · 30th December 2011, 13:42

Originally Posted by Padmei

I can remember the days of dial up about 5 years ago... was a techniclogical breakthru for me. Took about 5 minutes for breasts to appear

And now you get 5 sets of breasts per minute...

**SMOKEU** · 30th December 2011, 13:58

Originally Posted by Oakie

And now you get 5 sets of breasts per minute...

Or 2 girls and a cup.

**tri boy** · 30th December 2011, 14:14

http://www.tepahu.co.nz/Broadband-Internet.aspx

Nice to know it's there when I finally get the shits with Chorus/T-scum.

**Winston001** · 30th December 2011, 18:42

Originally Posted by superman

If I used satellite broadband the signal is at the speed of light but has to travel over 70,000km to reach Sydney, ergo it takes far longer for the signal to reach Sydney. This is why when watching live satellite feeds on the news the reporter and anchors always have a tiny bit less than a second or so delay before responding and talking to each other.

The delay is significant with a satellite and just to make things more fun, Special Relativity means time on the satellite is slower than on Earth. Try smoothly co-ordinating billions of kb/sec between different points on the planet's surface through a moving satellite which is running slow....its a miracle this stuff works at all.

**superman** · 31st December 2011, 01:43

Originally Posted by Winston001

The delay is significant with a satellite and just to make things more fun, Special Relativity means time on the satellite is slower than on Earth. Try smoothly co-ordinating billions of kb/sec between different points on the planet's surface through a moving satellite which is running slow....its a miracle this stuff works at all.

Lol, packets don't require that high an accuracy especially given the way any dropped packets are resent. A year on a geosynchronous satellite even though it's travelling so fast is still only 1 second less than a year on the surface correct?

**jazfender** · 31st December 2011, 08:00

Originally Posted by sil3nt

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Dialup doesn't even work at all for many websites these days.

Which is incredibly bad web design.

This comment would have been relevant in 2002.

**NordieBoy** · 31st December 2011, 08:40

Originally Posted by jazfender

This comment would have been relevant in 2002.

That's right, there's no more bad web design...

**Usarka** · 31st December 2011, 09:21

Ultra Fast Broadband rollout plan http://www.chorus.co.nz/fibre-rollout-map

If you're not in one of the main centres then it might be coming to a school near you!

Good to see all the needy Auckland suburbs like Remuera, St Heliers, Herne Bay and Ponsonby are all up first. I wonder where the government and chorus big wigs live

**jazfender** · 31st December 2011, 11:08

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

That's right, there's no more bad web design...

Sites not running (or not running well) on a 56kb connection isn't primarily because of bad web design.

**Edbear** · 31st December 2011, 11:11

Originally Posted by superman

Define faster.

You get a higher data speed with satellite, but you get a lower latency with a wired connection.

So if I use wired broadband to send a signal to Sydney, the cable transmits at almost the speed of light and the distance to cover is about 2200km.

If I used satellite broadband the signal is at the speed of light but has to travel over 70,000km to reach Sydney, ergo it takes far longer for the signal to reach Sydney. This is why when watching live satellite feeds on the news the reporter and anchors always have a tiny bit less than a second or so delay before responding and talking to eachother. The same happens when you're talking to friends overseas and you happen to get on a satellite connection, there's no way you'll be able to sing together over the phone.

This may be a good thing...

**NordieBoy** · 31st December 2011, 13:52

Originally Posted by jazfender

Sites not running (or not running well) on a 56kb connection isn't primarily because of bad web design.

Just targeted at a different audience.

The Kiwibiker homepage is 270Kb.
Xtra is 2.9Mb...
Stuff is 750kb.

**Night Falcon** · 4th January 2012, 10:23

Reading the poll results from this thread gives me a great idea....

We should all be made to drive at 80kph on long straight roads despite driving modern vehicles with state of the art breaking and safety features because we also share the roads with slower/older vehicles.

or we could adopted the Cuban way of life, Cigar smoking, Jazz music and 1950's technology

becasue the cost or availability of modern techology is to high for 4% of our population. Feel the love brothers & sisters