So they found the cunt, and he's sixteen years old

[Mully]

Victims are generally very forgiving people. And any legal action and consequences isn't just about them.

Good point.
How about a referendum, then?

[Hitcher]

How about a referendum, then?

Referendums are a waste of time. Too few people vote in them, and then Governments can always ignore the outcomes.

[Mully]

Referendums are a waste of time. Too few people vote in them, and then Governments can always ignore the outcomes.

Urgh. Are you part of the solution, Hitcher??

How about we just shoot the prick then?

[jasonu]

As do the poor fuckers that have never stood a chance in their own lives.
That is no excuse to do shit like this prick did

with!Educate yourself a bit further. It truely is a sad and real fact of our society that we have this sort of "event", and I believe we are all responsible in part for it. The same goes for any abuse against children.
What is this 'we' shit? I am in no way responsible for this crime.

I dont know squat about the person arrested for what happened, only that he is 16 and has been raised (I hesitate to say dragged up) without the correct, acceptable values that most of us accept and expect as normal. Not his fault really, he is a product of his environment and culture.
If you don't know squat about this person then how do you know what sort of upbringing he had?

The more we stand up on our high horses and spout about how the "Dickheads" behave the less likely we are to actually see anything change. We all need to get out there and DO SOMETHING to help.
What is this 'something' you speak of? Got any suggestions?

Oh, shit, I got my soap box out again.

That is quite clear

[kiwifruit]

People who have no concept of right or wrong, nor of actions and consequences probably have a blissful existence. They are the centre of a universe around which everything else rotates. From their perspective, life is probably all about them and their needs being met on their terms.

Blissful is not how I imagine it to be, in the mind of someone like this. I imagine the world / normal society is quite a frightening place where no one can be trusted. Living life with shit tinted glasses.

Mind altering substances will offer short bursts of joy but the side effects draw the mind further from functioning society. It's worth it tho, so why not take advantage of these (legal and illegal) substances, this person may think.

Rock bottom for someone like this could be punctuated by an event of extreme madness. All rational thought long gone. Not even like being alive anymore. I imagine it to be like being a passenger in one's own body, driven by a bent mind. Bent like a bad salvia trip that never ends.

It doesn't just happen, it's the result of all the shit that mind has been through. I'm not defending the boy but I can fathom how it's happened.

It'll happen again.

[MD]

I tried to stay off this topic because the subject just makes me wild - yes, I'm with the lynch mob crowd.

Why do some people have to jump to the defence of what are nothing but evil, vile, cruel and selfish creatures, who, by their own actions void themselves of deserving any sympathy or care. They are not fit to be described as humans. If it's not bad enough he raped and almost bashed to death a five year old girl, people trying to make excuses for him add insult to her injuries.

What he did, only he did. Stop making excuses. Oh it's societies fault, it's the Doles fault, it's Santa Claus's fault or maybe Bugs bunny. And stop with the 'we' are responsible crap. I, like thousands of others in this country, had no part in this scumbag's upbringing or actions.

Congrats to the Police for catching him. But why the hell did this have to happen (News quote);
Police spoke with family to negotiate the alleged attacker's appearance at Turangi police station yesterday. The 16-year-old was accompanied by a family member, Loper said.

Since when do Police have to beg for permission from a Suspect/offender's family before arresting him? At least now we know his racial background by this show of ridiculous and totally undeserved courtesy.

[Smifffy]

I think he should be shackled, dipped in the Waikato a few times and then let go over Huka falls. Let the Taniwha judge him.

[Hitcher]

I think he should be shackled, dipped in the Waikato a few times and then let go over Huka falls. Let the Taniwha judge him.

Again, death achieves little. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Being made to live his life perpetually trouserless, with "Kiddie Fiddler" tattooed on his forehead should make it hard for him to make friends and influence people.

[JATZ]

Again, death achieves little.

It'll stop the little fucker from doing again and it'll mean you and I don't have to support him when he goes to jail.

[jasonu]

At least now we know his racial background by this show of ridiculous and totally undeserved courtesy.

Rightly or wrongly, I had a pretty good idea of the racial background of the perp when I first read what had happened and where it took place.

[Smifffy]

Again, death achieves little. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Being made to live his life perpetually trouserless, with "Kiddie Fiddler" tattooed on his forehead should make it hard for him to make friends and influence people.

I'm not advocating killing him. That's for the Taniwha to decide, although I do hear they are open to bribes.

[RDJ]

Police spoke with family to negotiate the alleged attacker's appearance at Turangi police station yesterday. The 16-year-old was accompanied by a family member, Loper said.

There has been only one group allowed / favored such negotiation by the authorities. At least so far.

[Bikemad]

watched braveheart the other night................had an excellent ending

[kiwifruit]

Why do some people have to jump to the defence of what are nothing but evil, vile, cruel and selfish creatures, who, by their own actions void themselves of deserving any sympathy or care. They are not fit to be described as humans. If it's not bad enough he raped and almost bashed to death a five year old girl, people trying to make excuses for him add insult to her injuries.

What he did, only he did. Stop making excuses.

Of course there is no excuse but there are reasons why it happened. I don't offer a defence rather a desire to understand how it happened. Why would I, or anyone else make excuses? I think your passion for the topic may have clouded your perception of other people's views. You'd struggle to find people would wouldn't be in favour of putting him down.

Just because I, or anyone else, attempt(s) to offer a possible insight into the mind of this animal doesn't mean we're "on his side".

[tigertim20]

there are reasons why it happened. .

it happened because the offender wanted to fuck a 5 year old child, and saw his chance to get his cock out and do just that.

I can understand the desire to understand things, but sometimes, you look so hard for an 'answer' that you don't see the simple truth: some people are just fucked in the head.

Whats perhaps the most sad thing out of this thread, is that fuckall of the posts makes any reference or consideration to the 5 year old girl who was scared, and alone, with a dangerous, vicious, sick offender, and who will probably not have a decent nights sleep for many months without recurring nightmares.
Yes its tempting to lynch the cunt, but whats done is done, we cannot change the past, but we CAN find ways to support the victims in such situations, even if the support is only of the moral variety.

My thoughts are with that little child, and the family, who will no doubt be blaming themselves on the inside for leaving their child alone for a few minutes, even though the incident is clearly not their fault.