New Zealand Superbikes and Grand Prix

[Drew]

Drew you should be a Steward.............your version seems the simplest to understand.

a. The race shall be considered to be more than one part. The race
positions at the end of the lap preceding the stopping of the race.

Nope, no way to my mind could that be argued to mean the last completed lap, then minus one more.

[1998gsxr]

top weekend again at ruapuna,weather came right and was just great stroud had an off and the guys there behind the seen would not let him on the trace,but in the end he came out "so he should of"and they still cant get it right begind the seens,nevermind apart from that top day out..

[jellywrestler]

Nope.

Apparently the start of the second half of the race was held up so Stroud could get his bike repaired. Some of the other guys bikes started overheating on the dummy grid. Typical NZ racing, double standards when someone "important" needs the rules bent.

poppy cock to the first line
they went out on a warm up lap and Stroud was already fixed and in pit lane, they had a rule book out and were discussing the 65%, i shot up to the timing tower honed in on Strouds laps he had done three complete laps, went back down told them this and get him out there and work out the details later as it was holding up those out there. Jim Tuckerman then showed me that 3 of 5 is 60%
When Stroud came up to grid he went for his qualifying grid spot and that's when they decided to let the boys have another warm up lap.
Stroud then gridded at the rear.
I also talked to Moir's team (he'd gone down ) and said get back out there and argue about it later but i think it was clear he'd done less than Andrews questionable laps...
whatever happened Strouds first lap of the restart was 1.3 seconds quicker than anyone else on the track and Faaarking spectacular and while Stauffer knew he didn't need to cross the line first he didn't sit back and watch.

bring on Timaru i say

[Crasherfromwayback]

whatever happened Strouds first lap of the restart was 1.3 seconds quicker than anyone else on the track

I don't really think that matters a flying fuck if he shouldn't have been there mate.

[jellywrestler]

I don't really think that matters a flying fuck if he shouldn't have been there mate.

Nobody say a word about the 6 hundy out there either eh?

[Drew]

whatever happened Strouds first lap of the restart was 1.3 seconds quicker than anyone else on the track and Faaarking spectacular

That's not as impressive as you're making out if you think about it mate.

I have started off the back of an F3 grid and posted an out lap well over a second quicker than Glen Williams. Of course, I was in third gear doing well over 120kph when I broke the timing light, he was possibly doing 10kph.

What is impressive is Stroud being in third position on the track by turn one. I assume that means turn two (I am only working on what I'm told), which everyone calls turn one for some fuckin reason!

[Tony.OK]

bring on Timaru i say

For sure..........

And am hoping for some of those one liners from the microphone.

"happy as a sperm with egg on its face".................nearly spat my beer on the laptop hearing that!

[Billy]

Whatchu talkin 'bout Willis?

Nuffin!!! It wasn't me .

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nobody say a word about the 6 hundy out there either eh?

Just seems to me that Stroudy is all good for arguing things when it doesn't go his way...but was he supposed to be out there or not?

[Billy]

Nope, no way to my mind could that be argued to mean the last completed lap, then minus one more.

No I wasnt suggesting that you or I would,But because I was given different figures for the same event,A judge in a court of law may see it as confusing and make a different decision than us.

[Drew]

I don't really think that matters a flying fuck if he shouldn't have been there mate.

Giving this some more thought, could not everyone protest the results of the race since it was run outside the rules?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Giving this some more thought, could not everyone protest the results of the race since it was run outside the rules?

Dunno mate. I've never protested or had a protest thrown at me the whole time I raced. Which admittedly wasn't for long.

[Drew]

Just seems to me that Stroudy is all good for arguing things when it doesn't go his way...but was he supposed to be out there or not?

Hang on there bro, I haven't seen anywhere that he is arguing this one. It's just being argued by a bunch of people not involved.

[k14]

poppy cock to the first line
they went out on a warm up lap and Stroud was already fixed and in pit lane, they had a rule book out and were discussing the 65%, i shot up to the timing tower honed in on Strouds laps he had done three complete laps, went back down told them this and get him out there and work out the details later as it was holding up those out there. Jim Tuckerman then showed me that 3 of 5 is 60%
When Stroud came up to grid he went for his qualifying grid spot and that's when they decided to let the boys have another warm up lap.
Stroud then gridded at the rear.
I also talked to Moir's team (he'd gone down ) and said get back out there and argue about it later but i think it was clear he'd done less than Andrews questionable laps...
whatever happened Strouds first lap of the restart was 1.3 seconds quicker than anyone else on the track and Faaarking spectacular and while Stauffer knew he didn't need to cross the line first he didn't sit back and watch.

bring on Timaru i say

Yeah fair call, I stand corrected.

I'm undecided if sending him out was the right call, but it comes back to the same old story of rules being ambiguous and poorly written along with the officials not knowing them properly. Someone a few pages back said "apply them in the way they were intended - the spirit of the rules etc". Well IMO the spirit of the rules in this instance is to allow someone that is 1 or 2 laps down on the leader but still in the race to continue, no let someone that crashed multiple laps before the red flag to come back into the race, that is bs.

Crap like this one of the contributing factors towards my decision to give up road racing, too many inconsistent applications of rules by officials, ad-hoc changes to tried and true methods of doing things etc. This is just another example of it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hang on there bro, I haven't seen anywhere that he is arguing this one. It's just being argued by a bunch of people not involved.

Didn't say he was Drew. But as I said...when things don't go his way he's only too happy to. Was he supposed to be out there or not according to the rules?