A dab of silicon and a loop of lockwire..
Rivet links be damned.
2 weird 2 live, 2 rare 2 die.
A dab of silicon and a loop of lockwire..
Rivet links be damned.
Originally Posted by sil3nt
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
which isn't what the manufacturers recommend. they are a bit stuck with demand to provide split links as not many people have kits to press.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Rider Coach
Really?
A hammer and a Dolly make perfectly acceptable riviting tools....
Mind, not too many people have a dolly floating in the toolbox, but it is really just a block of steel.
I think the split link demand is because we like to take the chains of and give them a good clean from time to time.
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I was meaning that the manufacturers recomend rivet links on mid to bigger bikes.
They also recomend using the correct tool & DID in particular warn against using impact methods, but heck do what you like, they probably don't know what they are talking about.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
2 weird 2 live, 2 rare 2 die.
Manufacturers recommend a lot of clever things. In a lot of cases solely as a disclaimer against poor workmanship.
Honda recommends I use an endless chain on my 60hp vfr. I am supposed to remove the swingarm to fit the chain.
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Well that's one way. You could fit a rivet of course
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He's the only one I've got.
Where's the ride?
This. Never had a problem with clips on the 640A and it gets thoroughly used as its makers intended. At scrutineering for the Nelson Port races we insisted on a dab of RTV on all clip links - and there were lots across all capacities.
However... Pete: losing two in a short space of time combined with the dodgy-looking wear marks, I'd second the notion that something is not aligned correctly.
Cheers,
Colin
Rider Coach
Shit, I would hate to fly in an aircraft where all the rivits are impacted in then..... Squeeze riviting is the least prefered method.... I agree, partly because you usually can't get to the other side, however by squeezing there is more likelyhood of putting the rivit in sheer, and in a chain, where that is the load, then I would be more concerned.
I think gatch is right, it is more about garding against shoddy workmanship, and the fact DID get to sell their special tool.
2 weird 2 live, 2 rare 2 die.
Manufacturer doesn't recommend it though..Well that's one way. You could fit a rivet of course
Air hammered even. Possibly the noisiest tool I have ever used.
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
So what are plane rivets made of?
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He's the only one I've got.
Scumbag junkie-looking biker
If your clips are coming off then you're doing something wrong.
Anorak
Do the same as on a MX bike it is a bit hard to do the gearing with a rivet link and impossible to change the guide on the KTM
Never used the lock wire though not sure how too?
I never had one fail -----fishy swims upstream, surprising how many people get it the wrong way.
Until a couple of race meeting a go i had never had one fail.
But in hindsight i never followed my own rules firstly i had run out of silicone secondly i had been in a hurry prepping the bike and in my haste the clip had pinged off into the dark corner of the shed so i grabbed an old one of another brand of chain (420 inside of 415 not that probably matered as i only used the clip)and chucked it on.
On closer inspection the chain had also been rubbing on the outside of the block so what flipped it off?
probably a combination of all my f ups and poor prep.
My kid was pissed so was my misses.
The silicone also makes it easier to find.
BTW I normally have a couple of chains dummied up with the corresponding sprockets to facilitate fast stress free gearing changes without frustration.
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Tell your kid & your missus- if they want to get pissy, they can work on the sodding things
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Anorak
I will tell the kid. You can tell my misses.
Hows that fair nah my crap prep was all my own fault really.
That's not to say, i wouldn't blame someone else if I could
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Mr. Responsible
Everyone at speedway runs joiners on 500cc methanol bikes. full throttle then dumping the clutch and it survives, keep the chain oiled, aligned and free from hitting anything. Chains are only thrown from 1)dodgy link which wouldn't survive long 2)poorly maintained, stretched and not adjusted, not oiled, seizing links etc 3)bent or not aligned sprockets.
If you keep throwing joiners from a chain I would suggest a new chain. The chain could have a kink in it.
Being lazy you could just go for a 20 min ride, then feel how hot your chain is, should be warm, if it's hot then it isn't healthy.
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