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    Replacing gear

    I'm not sure how I feel about this. One of the big expenses of being a biker (particularly if you commute by bike) is replacing your gear what seems like fairly regularly. I currently have about $3k 'invested' in bike gear, and with my Spidi Gran Turismo pants seemingly on their last legs (har har!), am thinking once again about Going Shopping. The vifferbabe kindly gave me Motomail vouchers for my birthday and Xmas, but unfortunately, their online catalogue doesn't show anything that would be a suitable replacement, and even if it did, $200 won't go far. The GTs were around $540 6 or so years ago. Plus I have doubts about my Spidi H2-Out gloves ($250, IIRC) - have they lost their waterproofness (waterprooficity?), or was it just water from my jacket sleeves?
    Some things last a reasonable length of time - the StylMartin StylSafe boots are five-and-a-half years old, and still goodish, although some of the less important stitching's coming unravelled, and the ubiquitous velcro (which is used on almost all bike gear) seems to have a practical lifetime of less than 3 years. (It's bugger, that - velcro is so useful and easy, but longevity is seemingly not among its attributes...)
    Some stuff offers not quite infinite repair options, but close to it - like the 50 year old axe, that has had 11 new handles and three heads.
    Leather's usually pretty good in this regard - zips can be replaced, torn bits can be patched or replaced if necessary, new linings fitted. The modern textiles - while quite versatile, are less robust. My last jacket (Teknic Hurricane), was a great all-round jacket, lasting over seven years, and I probably spent more than it originally cost having holes repaired, leather overlays added, zips replaced, new armour, etc. But in the end, although it still fulfilled its purpose, the jacket was SO faded and poxy looking, I didn't want to wear it any more.

    Things have changed for me over the years, too. In the '70s, apart from a helmet (open face - fullface ones were in their infancy, and either too expensive, or were car ones which were too heavy), I wore gear only for protection from the elements, If it was cold, I wore gloves, otherwise not. I had a leather jacket, but if it was hot, I didn't bother. I could afford boots, so only bought some (workboots) when I got a dirt bike. I did have wet-weather gear, but only because I hated getting cold'n'wet.

    As time's gone on (and I've gathered more scars), I've added more (and better) gear. I still didn't get my first pair of 'proper' bike boots (and decent fullface helmet) until 1994, and my first leather pants until about 1998. After finding out how crap it was wearing cheap waterproofs over leathers, and how much of a pain D'Auckland's changeable weather can be, I switched to wearing "four season" jackets, and then to matching pants. If I was really wealthy, I'd own summer and winter gear, but this stuff's the next best thing...

    So what do you think? On the one hand, getting new gear is good, especially when gear is getting tatty or failing basic needs, but on the other hand, it's often ferkin expensive, particularly if (like me) there's several items which are nearing the end of their practical lifetime. It's almost enough to make me quit commuting, and save riding for the weekend, like many of you Weekend Warriors. (Problem is, my weekends are usually earmarked for exciting things like battling with the landscaping, rather than gliding over parts of the landscape, so I have to get my kicks from commutering).
    Then there's those favourite items, like a helmet you really like, or really comfy gloves, and you don't really want to bin them, but ... there's safety to consider.
    Do you factor the cost of gear replacement into bike ownership? Do you skimp on gear, buy the best, close your eyes when handing over the credit card? What are your criteria when choosing and buying gear?

    I thought I'd found the ideal compromise with four seasons gear, but it's still a compromise. The pants have some leather patches, but are still textile, so not the best in (god forbid) a long asphalt slide. The jacket's leather, but has fiddly zips for the fragile liner, which if they bust (as they inevitably will), render the jacket useless. I'm thinking I'm going to have to either return to textile gear, or buy leather and an overjacket to match the Motoline overpants I still have.

    I dunno... sometimes I think it's all too hard, and I should just give up.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Tend to buy good gear and stick with a bike worth bugger all myself.

    I remember starting out and everyone said don't skimp on gear, skimp on the bike. Well I skimped on both and didn't realise how much more enjoyable biking is when you're wearing decent gear!

    Lesson learned - gear comes first.

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    It is expensive and good gear is all I will buy so it just gets worse. I got paid out when I wrecked all my gear in a bit of a skid down the road and I chewed up the better part of $3.5k when finished. I choose safety and comfort as the prerequisites to buying gear, price last.

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    Have a look through this website Ian--->> http://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/...048/Categories

    I bought a $699 Jacket from Motomail last year...at FC Moto its $369.95.

    Im not the only one that shops there...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...145624-FC-Moto

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    Yeah its a bit of a nightmare at times isnt it? When i first started out I bought cheap ( not the cheapest) gear with the thinking that it would be nearly as good as more expensive stuff but probably wouldnt last as long and would need replacing if i binned. What i found was the cheaper stuf fdidnt last very long at all and that alot of the claims made eg. waterproof etc really were only true for a couple of months or not at all.
    So now I buy more expensive gear with a reputable name. I have astars pants revit jackets tcx boots etc. I think it is worth paying that bit extra the fit and finish of the products is excellent, the gear that claims to be waterproof is ,and it looks and feels like it will last many years of use.
    I have a winter jacket and gloves and a summer jacket and gloves , Im not to fussed on summer pants I find leather pretty good for summer and winter.
    I do quite a bit of research and take a while to make a decision on what I want to buy.
    Check out the FC Moto thread to get good gear at bargain prices also this place http://www.motoin.de/
    I just bought some Dainese leather pants from them which will cost me NZ$420 including postage.
    The nearest equivalent I can find in NZ are $699
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    I'm not stupid enough to "factor" in my gear spending habits. Or should that be brave enough? If I want something, I'll save and buy it. By the time I have the money I've either decided I don't really need it or that it's a bloody good idea and it's come down in price

    I spend WAY too much money on all my sports and never keep track of it. It'll make me cry. It gets bloody pricey but I'm one of those people that love new shit so I buy when I can.

    I have summer and winter gear (3 pairs of gloves). The winter gear is actually the gear I first brought and is still going strong. Some zip end thingie's are broken but they still look good. It makes a difference when you use your gear one is a blue moon!

    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    It is expensive and good gear is all I will buy so it just gets worse. I got paid out when I wrecked all my gear in a bit of a skid down the road and I chewed up the better part of $3.5k when finished. I choose safety and comfort as the prerequisites to buying gear, price last.
    It was good to find out, when I had my whoopsie, that my insurance company doesn't depreciate helmets. So you give them the receipt (or get a quote) of how much you spent and you get that exact amount. So I spent $900 of my new helmet knowing I'd get it back if I "used" it. I'm sure the other companies are like that. Bloody good though.

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    In the '70s, apart from a helmet (open face - fullface ones were in their infancy, and either too expensive, or were car ones which were too heavy
    Bought a new Arai full face in 1972 - dedicated bike helmet and reasonably light compared to a Bell Star. Expensive? $45 ( income of $55/wk) so, yes. Bell Star was $60!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Bought a new Arai full face in 1972 - dedicated bike helmet and reasonably light compared to a Bell Star. Expensive? $45 ( income of $55/wk) so, yes. Bell Star was $60!
    It's all relative, I guess. I was a student in the '70s, and an open-face helmet at just over $20 was a lot, given my wages were $0.80/hour, later rising to $1/hour. I think my current helmet's probably about half a week's salary too, but it's a whole lot better, and I'm no longer a student /delivery boy / shop assistant.
    My first bike was $600, a leather jacket was around $60, IIRC. Current bike cost $12k (now worth less than half that, despite spending many $k on it), and my jacket cost $1200, so it's kinda comparable.

    Maybe I was panicking a bit, or summat. I turned my Gran Turismo pants inside out, looking for the hole in the liner, and found nothing. Next thing is to take it to MSW and ask Kerrie to replace the zips and velcro - bound to be less than $540 .
    I've got many pairs of gloves - tend to hang on to them when they're replaced. The dubiously waterproof Spidi H2Outs will probably be Ok if I treat them with something, even if the liners are poked.

    The problem child is the jacket with its clever yet somewhat fragile liner. If that or the zips cark it, it'll be time for some thinking...
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    You could switch to communtering by pushbike. It'd be even more expensive, but the additional gear and whatnot would feel less unjustified.

    The fitness side-effect is good too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    You could switch to communtering by pushbike. It'd be even more expensive, but the additional gear and whatnot would feel less unjustified.

    The fitness side-effect is good too.
    Welll, I could, if I wasn't moving from working in Albania to working in College Hill, but I'm not game to try cycling over the bridge, and taking the ferry just so I could cycle would be dumb.

    I was impressed in LA that the public transport was cheap, and bike friendly, with a big rack on the front of every second bus. Saw a few cyclists catch the bus for awkward bits or because they were tired (or perhaps, lazy). Saw some folks on the train with bikes too.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    I purchased a NERVE jacket and pants from CNELL (a trademe store), 140 each - kept me dry safe and warm all winter..

    I got RAZOR gloves from 1tonne and they are seriously good (75$), all my mates have brought them now as well.
    One mate got boots and pants from there for about $140 each and they are really good too.

    I have a leather jacket, cordura pants, cordura jacket (all from CNELL - total cost 600), boots from red baron - 140, gloves from 1 tonne and red baron (alpine stars) 70 and 99 respectively. I have a 1tonne helmet (165$ - and it seems sweet). So I am fully kitted out and havent spent a grand yet.

    I also have 3 CNELL helmets, but I wouldnt recommend them for daily riding, they're ok as spares. They are the same price as 1tonne helmets but not even close for quality, style and design.

    I wouldnt spend lotsa money any more.. unless it was a helmet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    taking the ferry just so I could cycle would be dumb.
    What? The ferry is choice! Lots of people do exactly that. Some days in summer during the commute hours you literally can't move on the back of the ferry for the number of bikes packed in.
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    I cycle from manurewa to the cbd at least 3x a week - 30k each way. fun fun fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    fun fun fun
    It's choice, isn't it? Riding a bicycle in traffic is a buzz. I think that's what I've always enjoyed about cycling.

    To be honest I can never get that keen on spending entire Saturdays pedaling through the countryside, but zipping through rush hour around Auckland... I miss it.

    Motorcycling through traffic is more like work. You have to be too safety-image-conscious. However, everybody already hates cyclists and that'll never change, so when you get on a bicycle you might as well be a cunt on the roads and enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    It's choice, isn't it? Riding a bicycle in traffic is a buzz. I think that's what I've always enjoyed about cycling.

    To be honest I can never get that keen on spending entire Saturdays pedaling through the countryside, but zipping through rush hour around Auckland... I miss it.

    Motorcycling through traffic is more like work. You have to be too safety-image-conscious. However, everybody already hates cyclists and that'll never change, so when you get on a bicycle you might as well be a cunt on the roads and enjoy it.
    yeah you're right, although I do enjoy the peace of a country ride - velo or bike too. I have an Intruder and its kinda wide, so I have issues splitting lanes. I've come home with black and blue knuckles a few times..

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